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08-14-2022 , 03:30 AM




CO: 259.9 BB
BTN: 98.2 BB
SB: 86 BB
Hero (BB): 298.4 BB
UTG: 154.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 5

fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2 BB

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 7 9 K
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (7 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 3.3 BB, Hero raises to 6.6 BB, SB calls 3.3 BB

River: (20.2 BB, 2 players) 6
SB bets 76.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 76.4 BB

SB shows Q A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 73%, Flop 88%, Turn 86%)
Hero shows A 5 (Straight, Nine High)
(Pre 27%, Flop 12%, Turn 14%)
SB wins 165.2 BB



am i right in thinking i needed 79% equity to call when only having 68% making it a bad call? any other considerations?

tbh in game i got horny when i saw the straight and thought his massive overbet was a bluff so i called.

appreciate any feedback, thanks!
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08-14-2022 , 06:47 AM
You don't want to raise preflop, it's a weak hand that you will play very often oop and against 2 players.

Flop, i think you can cbet to make vilain folds his weaks hands.

Turn, you have too less equity against made hand and too bad reverse odd against draws. You can fold.

River, there is a 4th straight and a flush on board, vilain shove 3x pot, you can fold 75% of your range, your hand is in the low low low part of your range, you can find the fold.
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08-14-2022 , 08:09 AM
thanks for the feedback.

yeah i defiantly need to fold more! This is a major problem of mine as you can probably tell from this hand example. I'm too suspicious they are bluffing for no real reason.

say i was to cbet flop in this scenario and he calls or raises how would you suggest to proceed? also what would be a good sizing? im normally using 1/3 or 3/4 pot bets on the flop.

maby im wrong but i don't think raising A5o BB vs SB is that bad? i will be ip with an ace post flop.
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08-14-2022 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by poker_gandhi

say i was to cbet flop in this scenario and he calls or raises how would you suggest to proceed? also what would be a good sizing? im normally using 1/3 or 3/4 pot bets on the flop.
I think you can cbet and blindly give up.
I prefer 3/4 pot cause there is draw. Maybe just give up flop without cbet might be ok.

Quote:
Originally Posted by poker_gandhi

maby im wrong but i don't think raising A5o BB vs SB is that bad? i will be ip with an ace post flop.
But in the hh, button limp preflop. And you will often be oop vs 2 players.

But even BvB,it is vilain dependant : A5o is a bluff with low equity post flop and even vs a limper it's hard to have the best kicker with an Ace on board and hard to value TPTK 3 street on a 5 high board.
So:
If vilain limp fold a lot, ok (and so, give up postflop when you missed)
If vilain limp call a lot and ch fold a lot on a cbet, it's ok (but cbet in that case).
If vilain limp call and is sticky/CS post it's a bad idea.
If vilain is a reg with a limp GTO strategy (lol), it's not a raise I think.

I think you can play the spot with a limp bvb in the same way as an open raise spot BvB, with : the extra possibility to see a free flop with yours craps + less fold equity preflop.

What would you do with A5o preflop face an open raise ? 3b sometimes. Ok.
And if I say ok, but if you 3bet you have 5% to 15% less fold equity ? Would you still 3bet A5o ?
And if I say ok, you can still 3bet (with less fold equity), OR you can choose to see the flop for free, no chips needed ? What should you do ? I choose to see the flop for free with A5o.

So I prefer check A5o and raise, sometimes, A5s vs limp in BvB.
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08-14-2022 , 06:49 PM
That makes a lot of sense. You have opened my eyes to all the garbage i am raising pre flop not just in this situation thanks!
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