Hi all,

I'm curious about thoughts on all streets, including 3b size pre and call of 4b, and especially river. Thank you!

Background: Legal U.S. site; I've played with button in some larger buy-in tournaments on the site and he and I have both gotten OOL against each other. No cash experience.

.5/$1 NLH (6 Handed) (100BB Effective Stack)
PREFOLP

Folds to CO (Raise to $2.5), BTN FOLD, Hero (SB) (3! $10) AQ, BB Folds, CO (4! $25), Hero Calls

FLOP (Pot $51)
627

I check call CO's $15.99 bet.

TURN (POT: $82.98)
6

Check/Check

River (POT $82.98)
4

I tank for a few moments and jam $59.01 effective.

I thought about checking again, but thought against the CO's 4b range I am going to lose to AK a substantial amount. I didn't really expect to fold out any pairs that he is 4 betting with. In the moment I thought this bluff was ok, but I'm wondering if it was suicidal after the fact.

I think PF is a fold with AQos. As played I'm not sure why you C/C the flop with nothing but overcards, no backdoor anything. You whiffed and OOP, move on I would think.

Thanks for the response. I called with AQo pre because of history with aggro opponent (who later in the session 4b me with A5o). I don't know if it is correct and I think you could be right that this is a fold. I certainly would fold AJo to a 4b here.

As to flop, fair point. I think I called because I was being offered direct odds against a range of JJ+, AKs/AKo, AQs which I could see 4b me at varying frequencies. I honestly don't know if this is correct, but suspect you might be right that I should just c/f this. Because I think of the range I just put forward there, it's going to be weighted towards AK/AA/KK. I guess my range that includes pairs would continue, so a fold wouldn't be exploitable.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply. Much appreciated.

How are you getting direct odds against those hands?

pre is fine those positions. I dont hate this line, it's not obvious, but you can get a credit for having jacks or maybe slowplayed stronger overpair or 77, villain may fold ak, but expect tricky turn checks with kk+ a lot, but it's very aggressive and you shouldnt do this without info on villain tendencies, so preffer just boring flop cf

Everything probs close but I prefer folding preflop to the 4bet. We get absolutely nothing on the flop so without position, equity or any obvious plan I think this is fine just to let go, you are losing most of the time here anyhow.

After the turn check/check the river is overbluffed but you don't have much stack depth. I'm not sure the folds you'll get from AK (which might hero call sometimes anyhow) justify the shove, I would check and hope to see the occasional KQ or A5

I think I did the math right, but please correct me if I am wrong.

Running JJ+, AKs, AKo, AQs vs Ad,Qs results in this from ProPokerTools:
Hand Equity Wins Ties
ad,qs 26.14% 149,980 13,773
jj,qq,kk,aa,ayks,AxKx,AxQx 73.86% 436,247 13,773

Once I call the $15.99 bet, the pot size is $82.98. 15.99/82.98 = .19. That means I need to win more than 19% of the time to profit. My equity is 26%. I'm always confused if you count your own call in the pot odds; my gut says that you do not, but I'm reading an upswing article that says that you do? If you don't count your own call, I'm probably slightly behind equity to continue.

Obviously that doesn't account for more money going into the pot, etc.

Results: I was called by AKo.

you picked wrong opponent

1. I can't replicate your results with propokertools. Copy/pasting your ranges gives me a different result.
2. The syntax you're using is incorrect. "Ad,Qs" means any hand containing either the Ad or Qs. The true equity of your hand against that range is 15.09%. Also if you think that his range is this narrow it's a very straightforward fold pre.
3. Even if we had 26% equity we are going to under-realize because we can only continue on 6 turns. There is RIO with this hand since we'll frequently face a bet on the turn and be forced to fold our equity. Even on one of our 6 "good" turns our hand only has like 54-62% against the c-betting range you suggested and less than that against the range that he barrels.

Preflop is borderline against a balanced opponent. At 50NL rake AQo is a pure fold in this spot, but at 500NL rake it mixes folds/calls.



Facing the flop bet you have a tough decision. You don't have a club blocker and you're dominated or drawing thin against a lot of their range. Against a small 25% size it's a mixed call. Against a larger size / with higher rake it's likely close to a pure fold.



Facing the flop bet, your AQo has 38% equity (against a GTO range). However, it will badly under-realize that equity.




On the turn villain should mostly continue to barrel with a small size:



As played, shoving the river is dangerous but this is a good candidate to do it with, as you have very little showdown value, block AA/QQ which may have trapped on the turn, and unblock missed club draws.




GTO Wizard

That's embarrassing. Thank you very much!

thank you!