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04-17-2014 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by All Hail Circe
Hap...You have not switched to Sngs yet?

Isnt the allure of the 'Golden Sng' ever sooooo tempting :P

GL on the month, where are you hand wise? Sorry if I missed an update.
SNG's are no longer a option ... even with a sprinkling of gold.

I only play SNGs when im in proper full on cash game tilt mode ... the only problem with that is .. playing SNGs creates a even bigger full blown mental chicken oriental form of tilt.

My neighbours have politely requested i do not play SNGs again.

I also think the boredom of playing a ton of FR tables is not helping my moral either ... so its 6 max or bust for me.

There is always PLO

As for the help the NJD fund for a month quest ... its going to plan ( for him ) .. im at 25k hands so im going to plead insanity at some point.

Still not given up all hope though.
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04-17-2014 , 08:39 AM
Are you a winning lifetime Hap?
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04-17-2014 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ToTcH
Are you a winning lifetime Hap?
Ive been playing on and off since 2004 ... i was around in the glory days when you could make a shed load of cash with little skill set.
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04-17-2014 , 10:00 AM
I'm relying on your $50 to make a profit this month! So far break even before rakeback.

I swear if someone could coach me in how to avoid coolers I could crush this game. I just refuse to believe a villain has the one hand that beats me even though every single indication points towards it. So I call, get shown the nuts and lose a stack. Happens soooooo often to me and it has to be a leak. I always remember early conversations on Skype with Magorko when he was moving up through the micros and as spewy as he was in some preflop spots, he made some uber disciplined turn/river folds in spots such as this that I could never make........he now crushes midstakes and I'm still stuck at 50.
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04-17-2014 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NJD77
I'm relying on your $50 to make a profit this month! So far break even before rakeback.

I swear if someone could coach me in how to avoid coolers I could crush this game. I just refuse to believe a villain has the one hand that beats me even though every single indication points towards it. So I call, get shown the nuts and lose a stack. Happens soooooo often to me and it has to be a leak. I always remember early conversations on Skype with Magorko when he was moving up through the micros and as spewy as he was in some preflop spots, he made some uber disciplined turn/river folds in spots such as this that I could never make........he now crushes midstakes and I'm still stuck at 50.

^^^ Pretty sure you have had a big enough roll to play higher, just move up to where they respect your raises son!!.
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04-17-2014 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
^^^ Pretty sure you have had a big enough roll to play higher, just move up to where they respect your raises son!!.
That is not his issue ... he needs to respect villian's raises.

NJD is absolutely right though ... we can all go through this months hands and look at out biggest losing pots and think ... you know what, we should have folded that.

These situations add up quickly and they quickly get allocated as coolers etc .. but in reality not all of them are.

The amount of times ive called a min raise on the river when i know im getting pot odds etc but you are just beat 100% of the time .. but i still call.

Considering certain win rates are classed as crushing .. the difference between a small winner and these types are often a few of these spots.

Fine margins and all that.
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04-17-2014 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
^^^ Pretty sure you have had a big enough roll to play higher, just move up to where they respect your raises son!!.
I never get why people equate roll size to the games people should play. I was playing 50nl, and occasional $100nl on a $20k roll up until recently (a good chunk of that roll came from my old sng career) when I had to cash out a big chunk, but that doesn't mean to say I can beat 200nl or 400nl. My skill level and appetite for swings just isn't anywhere near the required level for that.

Likewise, if I was confident in my skill level I'd be more than happy to play under rolled at a level and accept the risk of going broke.
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04-17-2014 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by NJD77
I never get why people equate roll size to the games people should play. I was playing 50nl, and occasional $100nl on a $20k roll up until recently (a good chunk of that roll came from my old sng career) when I had to cash out a big chunk, but that doesn't mean to say I can beat 200nl or 400nl. My skill level and appetite for swings just isn't anywhere near the required level for that.

Likewise, if I was confident in my skill level I'd be more than happy to play under rolled at a level and accept the risk of going broke.
Usually when people have large rolls, it's because they won that money at the cashgame tables, and there's 2 ways to do so. By being a good player and winning at a good winrate, or by being a **** player, playing a million hands a month and cashing in rakeback.

Anyways my point is, usually players with a big roll do have the skill to move up but just dont cause they're comfortable at a certain level, I know for a fact you know a few players like this, and are potentially hurting their long term EV.

But yes, in a sense I agree with some of the things you say. Granted I also think at the micros people should be aggressive when taking shots. Playing 50nl with a 20k roll, and specially when you're you, seems like a massive waste of potential long term EV.
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04-17-2014 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hap_Hazard
That is not his issue ... he needs to respect villian's raises.

NJD is absolutely right though ... we can all go through this months hands and look at out biggest losing pots and think ... you know what, we should have folded that.

These situations add up quickly and they quickly get allocated as coolers etc .. but in reality not all of them are.

The amount of times ive called a min raise on the river when i know im getting pot odds etc but you are just beat 100% of the time .. but i still call.

Considering certain win rates are classed as crushing .. the difference between a small winner and these types are often a few of these spots.

Fine margins and all that.

    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #25929731

    BTN: $10.22 (40.9 bb)
    SB: $82.38 (329.5 bb)
    BB: $25 (100 bb)
    UTG+1: $25.63 (102.5 bb)
    Hero (UTG+2): $25 (100 bb)
    MP1: $27.50 (110 bb)
    MP2: $24.30 (97.2 bb)
    MP3: $37.76 (151 bb)
    CO: $29.21 (116.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J J
    UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75, 4 folds, SB calls $0.65, BB folds

    Flop: ($2.50) 5 3 5 (3 players)
    SB bets $2, Hero raises to $5.19, MP1 raises to $26.75 and is all-in, SB folds, Hero calls $19.06 and is all-in

    Turn: ($53) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($53) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $53 pot ($2 rake)
    Final Board: 5 3 5 4 6
    SB mucked and lost (-$2.75 net)
    Hero showed J J and lost (-$25 net)
    MP1 showed K K and won $51 ($26 net)



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    You just know this 8/6 china nit is never over calling 55 33 EP to get blown off it on a sqz happy table. But did he really over call QQ+ for the backraise 4bet play? Of course he did. You know it. YOU TANK. You think **** it I have to know for sure its worth $25 to know.

    1 min later you run the same play on another table lol


      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #25929971

      BB: $61.58 (246.3 bb)
      UTG+1: $8.17 (32.7 bb)
      UTG+2: $25 (100 bb)
      Hero (MP1): $25 (100 bb)
      MP2: $30.65 (122.6 bb)
      MP3: $18.72 (74.9 bb)
      CO: $28.86 (115.4 bb)
      BTN: $33.09 (132.4 bb)
      SB: $24.05 (96.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K K
      UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, MP2 raises to $3.50, MP3 calls $3.50, 4 folds, UTG+2 calls $2.75, Hero raises to $25 and is all-in, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $15.22 and is all-in, UTG+2 folds

      Flop: ($44.79) 5 T 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      Turn: ($44.79) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($44.79) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results: $44.79 pot ($2 rake)
      Final Board: 5 T 3 T 6
      Hero showed K K and won $42.79 ($24.07 net)
      MP3 showed 7 A and lost (-$18.72 net)



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      Edit; I often find myself paying off good players to know if they are capable of making plays even though I know I'm beat... Its a sickness & doesn't happen often but sometimes you just have to know.
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      04-17-2014 , 12:41 PM
      That JJ hand is ****ing tragic.
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      04-17-2014 , 12:44 PM
      haha lol
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      04-17-2014 , 12:51 PM
      Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2475656
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      BTN: $24.46
      Hero (SB): $25.61
      BB: $22.57
      UTG: $35.90
      MP: $25.62
      CO: $23.34

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 2 J
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, BB calls $0.37

      Flop: ($1.24) 5 3 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.70, BB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.30

      Turn: ($5.24) 8 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

      River: ($15.24) K (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $14.50, Hero calls $14.50

      Final Pot: $44.24
      Hero mucks 2 J
      BB shows A 6 (a flush, Ace high)
      BB wins $42.25
      (Rake: $1.99)



      u mean hands like this hap?
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      04-17-2014 , 12:55 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Mzbourg
      That JJ hand is ****ing tragic.
      I played it... I know lol

      Another thing that really bothers me is not knowing the win rate of this 8/6 china nit. Hell I would pay $100 to know that.
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      04-17-2014 , 01:01 PM
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      Originally Posted by icmmonster
      8/6
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by icmmonster
      good players
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      04-17-2014 , 01:05 PM
      Hes the bottom of the good player range, slightly above the 25/20 15 3bettor

      Edit; 8/6 chinas wr must be +5bb/100 right? I mean he never looses a hand.

      Edit2; I have him at 8.9bb/100 but that's only 2k hands. I would kill to knw his true wr...

      Last edited by icmmonster; 04-17-2014 at 01:13 PM.
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      04-17-2014 , 01:20 PM
      His true wr is
      Spoiler:
      Spoiler:
      3.5bb/100
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      04-17-2014 , 01:28 PM
      fark that means he is half as good as me and I'm pretty *****. time to retag china
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      04-17-2014 , 01:32 PM
      This is my worst one this month i think ..

        Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        BTN: $12.08 (120.8 bb)
        SB: $26.73 (267.3 bb)
        BB: $10 (100 bb)
        UTG: $31.03 (310.3 bb)
        Hero (MP): $11.30 (113 bb)
        CO: $10.15 (101.5 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is MP with 6 7
        UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

        Flop: ($1) 6 A 6 (3 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BTN calls $0.70, SB folds

        Turn: ($2.40) 5 (2 players)
        Hero bets $1.70, BTN calls $1.70

        River: ($5.80) K (2 players)
        Hero checks, BTN bets $9.38, Hero calls $8.60 and is all-in

        Spoiler:
        Results: $23 pot ($1.04 rake)
        Final Board: 6 A 6 5 K
        BTN showed 7 9 and won $21.96 ($10.66 net)
        Hero showed 6 7 and lost (-$11.30 net)
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        04-17-2014 , 01:37 PM
        Here is my graph showing all hands at every stake, it includes all my 6 max debacles and Zoom on my latest database.

        Sadly ... its 20 months worth, some can play this amount in one month.

        [ ] Grinder

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        04-17-2014 , 01:38 PM
        lol @ 10nl even if you 2x pot turn and draws fill riv XF is the right play lol
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        04-17-2014 , 01:43 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Hap_Hazard
        This is my worst one this month i think ..

          Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          BTN: $12.08 (120.8 bb)
          SB: $26.73 (267.3 bb)
          BB: $10 (100 bb)
          UTG: $31.03 (310.3 bb)
          Hero (MP): $11.30 (113 bb)
          CO: $10.15 (101.5 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is MP with 6 7
          UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

          Flop: ($1) 6 A 6 (3 players)
          SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BTN calls $0.70, SB folds

          Turn: ($2.40) 5 (2 players)
          Hero bets $1.70, BTN calls $1.70

          River: ($5.80) K (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $9.38, Hero calls $8.60 and is all-in

          Spoiler:
          Results: $23 pot ($1.04 rake)
          Final Board: 6 A 6 5 K
          BTN showed 7 9 and won $21.96 ($10.66 net)
          Hero showed 6 7 and lost (-$11.30 net)

          Bet/Fold river.
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          04-17-2014 , 02:04 PM
          Nice graph Hap. Couple of epic freefall downswings in there.
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          04-17-2014 , 02:47 PM
          mbn...

          i'm moving up!
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          04-17-2014 , 02:52 PM
          Pretty standard value shove from villain tbh.
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