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AoF (All in or Fold) at GG Network, beatable?

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01-14-2020 , 10:28 AM

Snus123

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5

Hi,

Wondering if anyone has a clue if the AoF tables at GG Network are beatable?

For those who does not know:
For example: Stakes 0.10/0.25 and you buyin with $2 and it resets/reloads to exactly $2 before every hand.

They take no rake from the actual pots but they do take $0.01 EVERY hand plus an additional $0.01 for the jackpot (which pays out if you get a straight flush or royal straight flush) and you usually get around $160 if you hit it.

1000 hands means $0.02*1000 = $20!!! in rake/jackpot contribution.
I guess this cant be beatable..?

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01-14-2020 , 11:24 AM

Iblis

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Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 3,299

If people aren't spewing hard I guess it's a huge rake trap.

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01-14-2020 , 11:26 AM

andreicos

old hand

Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 1,250

Idk, nowadays everyone can just use a program such as snapshove in real time and play optimally

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01-14-2020 , 12:11 PM

ionutd

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 13,624

what will they think of next

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01-14-2020 , 12:32 PM

Unsporting

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 4,482

What a scam

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01-14-2020 , 12:42 PM

ionutd

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 13,624

I imagine 10% flat rake is kinda hard to beat in a game with small edges

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01-14-2020 , 02:35 PM

Snus123

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5

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Originally Posted by ionutd

I imagine 10% flat rake is kinda hard to beat in a game with small edges

Yes. I mean there is alot of recreational players and the swings are HUGE. I played 1000 hands today and went -45 USD while my EV was +5 USD. 50 USD under EV on a 2 dollar buyin table lmao.

On the other hand the built-in EV chart doesnt count rake, so my actual EV is 5-20 = -15.. Then if you play alot you might get 50% back in rb, but still I cant imagine it is beatable would be nice to hear if someone has been able to beat these tables.

I have been to lazy to calculate the +ev with eventual suited connectors etc that can lead to the jackpot, but that +ev wont be huge

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07-20-2020 , 09:25 AM

MrGameTIGER

stranger

Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1

Hi there,

i did 9000 hands just to give over view :

stack $2.5 : hand 8501 rake 170.2 rakeback 16 jackpot 22 result +250 ev +86

stack $8 : hand 701 rake 70 rakeback 5 jackpot 763.14 (Sf jackpot) result -47.98 ev 9.98

swing are around 25 bi max from what i got

overall i have in 9201 hand a result of +$768.04 or $5 without Sf jackpot.

i think it is beatable but your ev is really small same as your were a casino in roulette vs a player playing black and red.

the game is probably interesting vs fish not playing GTO at high stack.

BR

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04-19-2024 , 09:58 PM

manovski

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Join Date: Apr 2024 Posts: 6

Does anyone have some updates on this mode? A LOT of nolife'ing regs are spamming this mode at all stakes, I've seen some dude math proving the mode is objectively -EV and it's really hard to imagine that such easy mode which can be mastered in 1-2 hours can be profitable if grinded.

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