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All-in with KK? All-in with KK?

01-27-2011 , 06:05 PM
Hi,

this is more of a general question, hence no hand history (you can immagine that I just lost against AA).
Is it always correct to shove with pocket kings? Assume you are on the button with KK, there is a standard raise (3x) and a call in front of you. You make it 10x, hoping to get just one caller. If one guy now makes a hugh re-raise (50x), should I shove, fold or call?
Calling seems stupid: If there comes an Ace on the flop, I will have to give up.
Fold with KK? We are equal in chips, but he could have KK, AK, QQ or the like.

What do you say?
01-27-2011 , 06:07 PM
100bb deep, never fold KK pf. get it in.
01-27-2011 , 06:08 PM
ship all day ok
01-27-2011 , 06:24 PM
Don't fold KK PF
01-27-2011 , 06:25 PM
Instashove
01-27-2011 , 06:27 PM
ramajamajamjam

unless you were like super deep or something
01-27-2011 , 06:42 PM
Thanks. It cost me 25 bucks - that means water and dry bread for the weekend (just kidding ).
Olaf
01-27-2011 , 06:47 PM
When you mentioned he could have AA, KK, AKs, or QQ, think about it.

There are six combinations of AA
There is one combination of KK
There are four combinations of AKs
There are six combinations of QQ

(Even though AA is one hand, there are six ways you can make AA out of the four aces. It's better to think of possible opponents' hands as combos.)

Out of this, you can see you're dominating ten hands, beat by six and tieing one.

I know it seems like you run into AA so many times with KK (and it gets super discouraging to shove preflop cause you KNOW they have AA sometimes). But it's the correct move
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