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AKs in a tough spot pre-flop AKs in a tough spot pre-flop

06-03-2008 , 12:18 AM
Absolute Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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Hero (UTG): $18.35
CO: $2.79
BTN: $22.35
SB: $24.49
BB: $11.66

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with K A
Hero raises to $0.35, CO calls $0.35, 1 fold, SB raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.15, CO calls $1.15

Flop: ($4.60) 5 K 9 (3 players)
SB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50, CO calls $1.29 all in

Turn: ($14.89) 4 (3 players - 1 is all in)
SB bets $4.20, Hero raises to $12.35 all in, SB calls $8.15

River: ($39.59) 5 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Villain is a 37/5. When the villain 3-bets pre-flop, I am putting him on a very narrow range and was undecided on whether to 4-bet pre-flop and fold to a shove or just flat call and stack off on a flop with an ace or king. As play pre-flop, I cannot find a fold postflop so my question is mainly on pre-flop. I didn't 4-bet preflop because the short stacker kind of confused me, I don't know why that happened.

In retrospect, I think against these type of villains, who I see a lot, I think 4-betting and folding to a shove should have been the best play, what do you guys think?
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06-03-2008 , 12:34 AM
Against someone with PFR of 5% don't know what there range for 3-betting would be but i would suspect AA,KK, so i dont like a 4bet unless you can fold to a 5-bet shove which is harder than it sounds in the heat of the battles sometimes.

The way it is played is fine. His bet on the turn is weak so i like the raise.
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06-03-2008 , 02:39 AM
There is no reason calling the flop, i would reraise, to $12 perhaps even consider shoving depending on how well i know the player. The only hands you are afraid of hear are AAs, if he had KKs, I feel he would not lead out with such a big bet. He could have QQs JJs, TTs, trying to make a big c-bet to steal and to size the strength of the K on the board. Stacking off in this situation is rarely a bad idea. You would be surprised what kind of grabage he could show down. KQs possibly..
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06-03-2008 , 02:41 AM
I prolly fold this, only other option is to 4bet. I hate cold calling his 3 bet.
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06-03-2008 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by blocka
Against someone with PFR of 5% don't know what there range for 3-betting would be but i would suspect AA,KK, so i dont like a 4bet unless you can fold to a 5-bet shove which is harder than it sounds in the heat of the battles sometimes.

The way it is played is fine. His bet on the turn is weak so i like the raise.
prolly shoulda put this in my last post but with AK folding to a 5 bet seems like a spew
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06-03-2008 , 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Junkys200
There is no reason calling the flop, i would reraise, to $12 perhaps even consider shoving depending on how well i know the player. The only hands you are afraid of hear are AAs, if he had KKs, I feel he would not lead out with such a big bet. He could have QQs JJs, TTs, trying to make a big c-bet to steal and to size the strength of the K on the board. Stacking off in this situation is rarely a bad idea. You would be surprised what kind of grabage he could show down. KQs possibly..
Really, theres no reason? You say that QQ-TT is in his range (and I agree that it is) and yet you want a big raise here, which will probably fold those hands out. Since youre probably rarely getting called by worse if you raise the flop, and youre WA/WB and committed, then why raise?
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06-03-2008 , 06:51 AM
I'm happy to just ditch it after he 3 bets pre, he's not raising with AQ here and you are oop so just cut your losses and move on imo.
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06-03-2008 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by djshawk
I'm happy to just ditch it after he 3 bets pre, he's not raising with AQ here and you are oop so just cut your losses and move on imo.
Thats way too tight to fold PF even if he only has PFR of 5, your only OOP if the CO calls but his stacks going to go in on flop anyway.

I just flat call the turn and am happy to get it in on the river
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06-03-2008 , 07:06 AM
From these stats you can figure that he is pretty loose/passive assuming that his AF reflects the first two. So his raising range is prolly AQs+ and TT+,
so his rr range is even tighter, like QQ+ and AKs so folding to
the three bet is fine, after calling and the flop u should just stack off call then get it in own the turn. No value in raising the flop, and he's very close if not committed on the turn
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06-03-2008 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Jub.
Thats way too tight to fold PF even if he only has PFR of 5, your only OOP if the CO calls but his stacks going to go in on flop anyway.

I just flat call the turn and am happy to get it in on the river
Missed that we were in position, I still think it's a fold though. Somebody who raises 5% isn't squeezing light. Planning to get it in on Axx or Kxx is asking for trouble because the only hands you're getting action from split the pot with you or beat you. Seriously, you are allowed to fold AK preflop, nobody else will ever know.

As played calling down is way better than shoving the turn, make him sweat with his QQ if that's what he has.

As an aside, if you've got a read on him that he can't fold QQ/KK ever then calling and stacking off on Axx flops is probably ok.
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