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Old 06-17-2011, 10:59 AM   #126
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Re: AK vs a reraise (concept)

Play vs villains 3b range for that position.

AKs is probably a 4b vs someone 3 betting maybe 10%+ or so but any less a call is never to far wrong because of the amount of equity you can flop.

This is a perfect example of where hand analysis can be so hugely +ev. Look at all your hands where you had AKo and break them down vs villains 3b range and post flop tendencies.
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Old 06-19-2011, 06:03 AM   #127
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Re: AK vs a reraise (concept)

4bet, get called by 97s, flop top two, bet flop, bet/call turn, lose to flush. That's how u play AKo in 2011.
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Old 06-19-2011, 06:59 AM   #128
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Old 07-17-2011, 07:52 PM   #129
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:04 PM   #130
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just lol at the first bunch of responses, all from good players. I like aejones saying he just 4bets to 450 and SOMETIMES calls a shove lololol
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:05 PM   #131
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funny how times have changed
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:04 AM   #132
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Edit: Just noticed the dates, hahaha
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:11 AM   #133
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oh man, i want to go back to 2006
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:49 PM   #134
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The fact is folding AK wasn't that bad vs 3betting ranges of some players back then. When light 3betting become popular there was a period of over adjustment and crazy 3bet/5bet wars till people slowly figured those out but it's not like people were flding AK vs 15% 3betting range.

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oh man, i want to go back to 2006
Regs were very good back then and they would hand your ass to you. It was just different game, weakier trackers, very simplistic huds, no massive datamining, less tools to figure out some GTO approximations and no material available on the internet for learnign to play. It's just much easier these days to learn to play decently.
Yes, the games were softer but it had nothing to do with level of play of the regs but with abundance of fishes who kept donating to the economy.
Just so you know, usual line-up in Party 6max "back then" was: Durrrr, Lolo (one of the biggest winners in online poker probably ever), Dang brothers, Cts and few others who later became recognized stars.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:38 PM   #135
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:59 PM   #136
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god i miss 2006
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:45 AM   #137
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I played on party in 2006, I meant I want to go to 2006 and know what I know now.
I remember playing one hand where I open button and another reg 3 bet big blind , and I 4 bet aa , he tanked and said he folded qq for 100bb. Right now anyone is gonna be fist pumping getting qq in bb vs button
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:54 AM   #138
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On the other hand I remember getting 500bb preflop (for 10k pot) bvb at 5/10 against lag reg (malavi if anything remembers sn's back then) the board run out: AJT93 and I won with my QQ
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:26 AM   #139
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Wau Aaron Unit.
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:03 AM   #140
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this thread levels me every time it gets bumped =/
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:22 AM   #141
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A very good question. In late position battles you can usually get AK in preflop happily. utg vs 3bet it gets more villain dependant.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:39 AM   #142
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lol good to see all these old names. Looks like I contributed a lot too. This thread was posted I think about 2 months before UIGEA hit fwiw. Some US players posting hands from PP too. Something to keep in mind is that about a year before this thread was started I read a huge thread on here about how poker isn't profitable anymore, everyone's too good, it's not worth it to learn etc. Funny stuff
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:44 AM   #143
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Something to keep in mind is that about a year before this thread was started I read a huge thread on here about how poker isn't profitable anymore, everyone's too good, it's not worth it to learn etc. Funny stuff
lol. Terrific.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:32 PM   #144
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The fact is folding AK wasn't that bad vs 3betting ranges of some players back then. When light 3betting become popular there was a period of over adjustment and crazy 3bet/5bet wars till people slowly figured those out but it's not like people were flding AK vs 15% 3betting range.



Regs were very good back then and they would hand your ass to you. It was just different game, weakier trackers, very simplistic huds, no massive datamining, less tools to figure out some GTO approximations and no material available on the internet for learnign to play. It's just much easier these days to learn to play decently.
Yes, the games were softer but it had nothing to do with level of play of the regs but with abundance of fishes who kept donating to the economy.
Just so you know, usual line-up in Party 6max "back then" was: Durrrr, Lolo (one of the biggest winners in online poker probably ever), Dang brothers, Cts and few others who later became recognized stars.


Yeah pretty much exactly this.

I remember emailing Pokertracker support asking them to put a 3 bet % into their HUD, and they wrote back to me saying you can just easily estimate it on your own, don't worry about it.
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:58 PM   #145
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Old 03-29-2014, 02:23 PM   #146
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Old 03-30-2014, 05:49 AM   #147
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If villian has been reraising me light (and is laggy) I will four-bet to 450ish often, and usually call a push.
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