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A9s SB 3bet CO, give up in river? A9s SB 3bet CO, give up in river?

09-17-2021 , 11:37 AM

V tank like 40 seconds and call, any thoughts?
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09-17-2021 , 12:42 PM
turn and river both look like x/f you just have better bluffs i think
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09-17-2021 , 05:00 PM
When he cheks that flop he has a lot of Ax and air and maybe bit of pairs but those would bet a lot for protection. So there is no point in such big sizing ott all better Ax will call it anyway.
OTR when you pot it you only rep strong trips and AJo its not pure 3b pre so very few value and lot of possible bluffs. I think smaller sizing where you can still represent OP might work better.
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09-17-2021 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 2019fish2019
turn and river both look like x/f you just have better bluffs i think
Yeah, i know i can bluff with some combos but not sure if this hand is good. And i cant figure out when i play. I dont block flush draws and have no showdown equity. After run the sim this line is not off tree with A9s, but i dont have concept of frequency.
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09-17-2021 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
When he cheks that flop he has a lot of Ax and air and maybe bit of pairs but those would bet a lot for protection. So there is no point in such big sizing ott all better Ax will call it anyway.
OTR when you pot it you only rep strong trips and AJo its not pure 3b pre so very few value and lot of possible bluffs. I think smaller sizing where you can still represent OP might work better.
ott,not sure if all better Ax will call verse that size.
In face I consider about a overpot bet ott with same actions with all over pairs.

otr, he mostly have middle PPs and bust flush draws(oc sets and trips). If I bet smaller(less than 3/4?) he will happy to call 66-99. I don't have any sets since 33-55 is not pre 3bet range, I want to represent all over pairs and AJ, KJs, JQs. I know this line is ok but not sure if Ad9d is good. One reason is I unblock flush draws.
Or want to make middle PPs fold otr is too ambiguous ?
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09-18-2021 , 10:43 AM
youd rather bluff A9hh blocking J9hh AJhh
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09-18-2021 , 12:52 PM
i simmed this one bc i was convinced it wasnt very good but it looked ok. i think exploitatively its not going to work as often as solver would like it to on this river (im not convinced people fold a better hand that they call turn with)
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09-18-2021 , 09:17 PM
In practice no better hand fold river, you rep jx and slowplayed on flop aces
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09-22-2021 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by submersible
i simmed this one bc i was convinced it wasnt very good but it looked ok. i think exploitatively its not going to work as often as solver would like it to on this river (im not convinced people fold a better hand that they call turn with)
After I simmed this A9s is not off tree, and honstly when I play I'm confident that V have middle PPs and not thinking any of GTO, I want to overbet but I think pot bet should achieve same goal.

Do you think NL25 pool will call with 66-TT ?
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09-22-2021 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tiltplay
ott,not sure if all better Ax will call verse that size.
On 643, lots fold. With gs, maybe 15% will fold.

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youd rather bluff A9hh blocking J9hh AJhh
Frequencies >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blockers.

The problem with blocker talk is that, in practice, one attends to blockers at the expense of frequencies. In fact, frequencies so vastly outweigh blockers in two card Holdem that a good rule is that blockers don't mean s***.

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(im not convinced people fold a better hand that they call turn with)
They do, often. The fact is that large bluff bets are marginally profitable on even the driest boards versus the small-stakes population*. This is the main reason why you once saw so many 20bb/100 old school HU players with ridiculous skyward redlines matched by freefall blue lines; they ran crazy bluff ratios and put fish on blast for stacks.

I don't know how many of them are still around though. You can get killed fast doing that versus anyone on the ball.

*Like all marginal spots, a thinly right play can easily become wrong given even weak information.
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