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09-26-2010 , 12:34 PM

ArrrInnn

adept

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,178

Villain is SyrahjenNe, he is opening 32% on the btn and is folding 41% to 3bets.

He probably sees me as aggro.

Poker Stars, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $627
Hero (BB): $2,155.95
UTG: $600
BTN: $1,131

Pre-Flop: Q

dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, BTN raises to $15, SB folds, Hero raises to $54, BTN calls $39

Flop: ($111) 8

(2 Players)
Hero bets $60, BTN calls $60

Turn: ($231) 7

(2 Players)
Hero bets $156, BTN calls $156

River: ($543) 2

(2 Players)
[color=red]Hero c/c b/c b/f?

He has 861 left on the river we have him covered, pot is 543

and if you bet what sizing?

Comments on all streets are welcome

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09-26-2010 , 01:13 PM

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,771

check is out of question imo(he rarely is vbetting worse for value with most Qs gone and most likely has showdown value)
I prolly b/f 390 or sth, doubt he is bluffshoving enough to make a call profitable

i would go bigger on the flop btw

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09-26-2010 , 01:34 PM

ArrrInnn

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yeah flop was a mistake I actually didnt notice on the flop that we were 200bb deep.

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09-26-2010 , 02:08 PM

NxtWrldChamp

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definitely betting

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09-26-2010 , 03:50 PM

zanetti4

grinder

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Bet and making more on flop would almost quit this thread as we could just near-potting-AI river in that scenario

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09-27-2010 , 03:39 AM

mperich

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Tons of semi bluffs in ur range so a bet is a must imo. I think folding to a raise is pretty close cuz I think he could play sets that way. I guess I'd still fold since he never folds to 3b pre so he has a lot of sooooted cards in his range.

-Mike

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09-27-2010 , 12:19 PM

bias1

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mandatory: bigger bet on flop.

1/2 pot riv, with intention of folding to a raise

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09-27-2010 , 12:25 PM

pologuy64

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235 - 255 on river and "Get Pissed" fold to a Shove

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09-27-2010 , 12:57 PM

Bruut99

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probably bet/calling

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09-27-2010 , 07:50 PM

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bias1

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Originally Posted by Bruut99

probably bet/calling

and expecting to see...?

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09-27-2010 , 08:26 PM

#11

Reefypoopoo

banned

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,625

if we're bet/folding QQ, are we also bet/folding 56

? 9T

? seems exploitable

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09-27-2010 , 08:29 PM

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dmkai3

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Originally Posted by Reefypoopoo

if we're bet/folding QQ, are we also bet/folding 56

? 9T

? seems exploitable

Not necessarily due to card removal. Villain can have A5dd A6dd, A9dd, ATdd when we have QQ.

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09-28-2010 , 08:36 AM

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chob18

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b/f vs him fo sho, hes never bluffraising like ever.

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09-28-2010 , 09:17 AM

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craiggerz

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c/c or b/c >>>>>>> b/f

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09-28-2010 , 10:20 AM

#15

z0dia@c

journeyman

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C/C to snap off some bluffs / light valuebets of which he can't have much is a bit ******ed. I think B/C is lighting money on fire in general if this player isn't completely crazy. He will never come over the top if you B/F something like $370 with air. He'll realize FE is limited so if he shoves you can expect to be toast most of the time I guess.

B/F > C/C > C/F > B/C

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09-28-2010 , 11:01 AM

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LuckyfishZ

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how about bet bigger on the flop, bigger on the turn, and shove river yourself?

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09-28-2010 , 11:35 AM

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mrTruli

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what do you guys think how this guy plays 88,33 a few 77's? do you not think he shoves those to a river bet? Do you think he is raising those on the flop? Also what is the worst hand we bet call the river with? if you are going to say only flushes, then isn't that exploitable?

I don't know but to me 380/call looks like the only viable play.

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09-28-2010 , 02:26 PM

#18

MU MUF MUFC OK

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 438

It really depends upon how often he calls your 3 bet with Axd.

If he calls with every axd hand, which is possible considering his low fold to 3bet and the fact that you are deep, then his range is slightly ahead of you and you should check call.

His calling range you beat - KcKd,KhKs,88,33,8s7s (2 combo's of KK, 1 combo of 78s)

His calling\shoving range that beats you - AdKd,AdJd,AdTd,Ad9d,Ad6d ,Ad5d,Ad4d,Ad3d, Ad2d,JdTd,Td9d

With this range he has 55% equity.

I dunno if he calls with that many diamonds, probably not. What do you think?

Also he probably value bets every hand that will call your raise anyway.

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