Thank you for reading this post. Please give me some advice!

Stats of villain is unknown.

How do you play this AQ BvB?

I decided to shove on the turn because I have st8 and flush draw also have fold equity vs J hit and middle pocket pairs.

This was overplay?
Should I have x/f on the turn?

Or I mistook preflop action?(should fold to 3bet or should call to 3bet)

How dou you think about this hand?

Every advice is helpful for me...


PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 115.96 BB
Hero (SB): 101.5 BB
BB: 109.76 BB
UTG: 107.42 BB
MP: 193 BB
CO: 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 7 BB, Hero raises to 23 BB, BB calls 16 BB

Flop: (46 BB, 2 players) K 2 J
Hero bets 19 BB, BB calls 19 BB

Turn: (84 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 59.5 BB and is all-in, BB calls 59.5 BB

River: (203 BB, 2 players) 3

Hero shows A Q (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 8%, Flop 20%, Turn 27%)
BB shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 92%, Flop 80%, Turn 73%)
BB wins 199 BB

Dont include results in your posts. Pre is a mistake unless you're bluffing. Call or fold told 3!depending on player. Hands that call a 4! are crushing you before and after the flop. You're burning money on the turn.

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I'd also 4b preflop for value, just a bit smaller I think. Postflop is ok.

Pot is way too big on every street. You should flat the 3 bet, call the flop bet and you can check/fold river if V checks turn. If V bets turn, you are more than likely crushed even though you have more outs. If V has Ax w ace of spades, he won't fold to c/r shove on turn which is a "spewy" move with your hand. Get to show down as the only hands u beat that would call flop bet after huge preflop action is a5-a9ss and a10. When pot swells in preflop action, expect hands to be stronger post if they call flop bet.

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Thank you.
Ill be more careful to post without results.
As you say, I overplayed pre..

Humm you think like me.
Thank you.

Yes I made too big pot preflop in spite of OOP.
Thats obv mistake.
Thank you very much for your understandable explanations.
I feel good to take your play-line.

4bet pre is bad imo just call , cbet sizing wayyyy too big aswell

I feel 4b pre is fine but would check range OTF and go from there. I think on this texture we can check fold AQ/QQ/JJ and check call AA/AK/KK. If it checks through on the flop we can start betting our AQ, KK and JJ and check call AA because the J is bad for our range. On the river we can select hands to jam but I wouldn't worry too much because most villains are pretty nutted in 4b pots on 50NLz.

As played turn jam is bad because you only rep KK, A5ss and AQss with this line and he has an easy calldown with AA/AK.

He'll fold AJ/KQ hands on the turn, and shove AK preflop, so IMO we have more than enough FE.

KQ and AJ don't call 4bets at a high frequency

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If we're value 4 betting AQ, it seems weird that he'd fold KQ/AJ.
He also plays AQ this way pretty much 100% of the time. So we bluff that ott also.

How wide is your 4! range here? I imagine it has to be based on an estimation of what % of hands villain is 3! at 6max.

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Its a zoom hand so i'll assume you don't have any info on V. Man this spot is horrible, its set up pretty nasty for you, but still, the goal of this thread is figuring out a way to lose less money when you are set to suffer.
Let me see. When you open raise from SB he could very well be 3bet semi bluffing thinking you are stealing with garbage. At that point you don't have much information yet, but I think its fair to say you have 2 options.
Call. Or raise.
The merits of raising: Probably you could get some KJ, QJ, TJ, 99,88,77 and most his semi bluff holdings to fold, most of those hands were behind you to begin with anyways. You can take the lead in the hand and finish it with a cbet on the flop (not really), and you are not calling oop which is something better to avoid.
Calling has the merits of creating a pot more according to the strength of your hand, playing against all his weaker holdings, keeping more maneuverability with a bigger SPR for the rest of the hand, etc.
When you 4bet raise pre flop, are you expecting to get any folds from hands that dominate you? namely AK KK AA and QQ?
When you get called 4bet and miss, can you profitably try and take the pot down with a cbet?
When you try the cbet and fail, you are far too deep into the hand to go back.
All in all, it is a horrible spot, and fu*k pokerstars, but I think that if you were to re consider some decisions you made in this hand, probably 4betting got you more problems than solutions, even though it gave you a lot of information, it came at a cost way too high.
And secondly your flop cbet... I think it was too optimistic, since it would have worked against probably TT , no other holding that was ahead of you would have folded here. And your all in would have taken out QQ with luck. I think being passive in poker can slowly starve you, but being overly aggressive can kill you in a second.

I think so.

Thank you.
So...if you had 22, fold pre?
How do you play about this hand?

You should realize he makes it very small preflop. You can only fold out a small fraction of you'r range.

AQ isn't a standard 4bet against a BB 3better, unless he's 3betting more than 15/17%. Against a small 3bet sizing typically you want to 4bet more hands; The thing is without information how often he does this I rather use my standard preflop plan, as he could do this a exploit with only premium hands.

Against an unknown I don't tend to 4b like this - your 4b is way too big anyway.

Just call his 3b and play each street accordingly. What you've done is bloat the pot oop and left you in a position where you are having to bluff flop and turn against an opponent whom you have no idea about his folding frequencies.

i would call the 3bet here with AQo and elect to use some other hands like KQo as a bluff

i guess postflop is fine but I would prob size down OTF