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Old 07-29-2021, 06:50 AM   #1
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50NL Zone: Wild turn spot

Ignition - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 112.7 BB
CO: 79.94 BB
Hero (BTN): 131.62 BB
SB: 256.96 BB
BB: 103.74 BB
UTG: 239.02 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q T

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 3 players) T T A
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 4.18 BB, SB raises to 8.36 BB, CO raises to 16 BB, Hero calls 11.82 BB, SB calls 7.64 BB

Turn: (61 BB, 3 players) K
SB bets 1 BB, CO raises to 30.98 BB, Hero?

So I don't know what to make of this whirlwind of nonsense. There's only 1 other T in the deck, yet both players seem to like their hands. Should I be worried about a boat yet? And if I continue, I assume I should just call again to hopefully keep SB around?
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Old 07-29-2021, 03:42 PM   #2
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Re: 50NL Zone: Wild turn spot

no idea what CO is doing, i just never cold4 on the flop like that with any hand. it seems pretty bad to do with a flopped boat but if he stacks you maybe it isn't. makes more sense with KT but the turn actually makes fewer combos of that so i'd call.
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Old 07-29-2021, 04:58 PM   #3
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Re: 50NL Zone: Wild turn spot

the only reason i dont want to fold is the co's stacksize and sb's turn lead make me think both might not be great players. i kind of want to fold the turn since our kicker is no longer relevant and i think we're at best going to be chopping the pot with a small % freeroll to a j / q, but then i feel like maybe we get compensated by the third persons stack and the pot. weird hand and i guess id call and call river. we might be able to fold if river goes sb x co jam we call and sb reraises i guess but man both of them seem to be clicking.
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Old 07-29-2021, 06:01 PM   #4
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Re: 50NL Zone: Wild turn spot

I don't play 50nl, but I've seen these weird c/r followed by a 1bb donk a handful of times at 5nl and they're almost always some spazz out with a weak pp that's angry at the flop. Or SB just mis-clicked the turn?

I dunno... It sucks but I think I'd have a hard time folding.
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Old 07-29-2021, 09:28 PM   #5
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Re: 50NL Zone: Wild turn spot

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the only reason i dont want to fold is the co's stacksize and sb's turn lead make me think both might not be great players. i kind of want to fold the turn since our kicker is no longer relevant and i think we're at best going to be chopping the pot with a small % freeroll to a j / q, but then i feel like maybe we get compensated by the third persons stack and the pot. weird hand and i guess id call and call river. we might be able to fold if river goes sb x co jam we call and sb reraises i guess but man both of them seem to be clicking.
SB obviously a donk but don’t read too much into stack sizes on ignition zone bc there’s no auto top off option

FWIW I think this is just a fold. Let SB/CO fight

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Old 07-29-2021, 10:16 PM   #6
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Re: 50NL Zone: Wild turn spot

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the only reason i dont want to fold is the co's stacksize and sb's turn lead make me think both might not be great players. i kind of want to fold the turn since our kicker is no longer relevant and i think we're at best going to be chopping the pot with a small % freeroll to a j / q, but then i feel like maybe we get compensated by the third persons stack and the pot. weird hand and i guess id call and call river. we might be able to fold if river goes sb x co jam we call and sb reraises i guess but man both of them seem to be clicking.
oh derp i didn't even think of fact that Tx we were previously beating just improved to a chop, yeah you can fold turn i think
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Old 07-30-2021, 07:13 AM   #7
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Re: 50NL Zone: Wild turn spot

JamAdebayo, I may or may not have failed to notice that I was chopping with other Ts too lol. It makes the hand ever weirder.

Submersible, ya... they both seem to be way on the rec side. I had no idea how 2 other players could have a big hand here unless someone spazzed with QJ on the flop. Maybe the sheer nonsense of it all makes it a calldown.

S. Whizzleteats, ya... SB's play does look like it could be something absurd like a pocket pair. There seem to be fewer of those types at 50NL, but this guy is putting out all the signs of being that type lol.

JohnRusty, I was very worried about AT/KT from CO. The hand looks like 2 recs trying to collude and making a mess of it lol. It sounds like this spot is really close.
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Old 07-30-2021, 02:37 PM   #8
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Re: 50NL Zone: Wild turn spot

sb just has a lot of AK/AQ/AJ imo and the occasional boat, not that weird on his end. its CO who looks nutted and since the best you can do there is chop i'd let it go. if we knew SB was always gonna overcall with his weaker range such that yall can split his money but he folds those hands a lot prob
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