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Originally Posted by Nichlemn
Is it worth 3betting this flop? Given the texture Villain could have a lot of pair + gutshot type hands that might not fold/are worth folding out anyway.
Turn - Shove, but it could be closer if the suits were different. Since Villain can't have a 7 and a flush draw (or even a 7 and a bdfd), Villain's range won't contain that many 7s. Villain can't have an 8 and a flush draw either (since you hold the 8d), but since 8s will be more likely to raise the flop than 7s anyway, the effect isn't as significant.
W/o reads I think it's a bit marginal to get it all in on the flop since there is a ton of stuff we're flipping with/dominated by, I think I fold on a ton of turns if he keeps up the aggression just because I have no read. This turn is pretty much the best I could get since no flush/straight cards came, and it makes his 2-pair hands less likely. I definitely agree it'd be way closer if the 7 was off suit since, like you say, the pair + FD combo's just tripped up. I actually didn't think of the 8 of diamonds killing his pair + FD outs, but that takes away some of his big draw combinations, but that's kinda bad because that takes out a big part of his range that we're dominating/he's not folding.
Anyways, I feel like the range of hands he's representing on the flop that crush us on the turn is pretty slim compared to everything that we're way ahead of now, and since we're 'only' 100BB and I called the flop, I can't really fold that turn too much. So I ended up getting it in and he had A4o for bottom pair no draw