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10-12-2009 , 06:04 AM
Hi there, some tough spots from a session I had today, May I ask that you share your thoughts on each hand before looking at the spoilers. Flame away!

Hand #1: Villain is playing 90/52/4 and has paid me off 3 barrel bluffing on two previous occasions

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Hero (BB) ($62.90)
SB ($36.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, A
SB calls $0.25, Hero bets $1.65, SB calls $1.15

Flop: ($3.30) 7, 2, A (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50

Turn: ($6.30) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

River: ($21.30) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $25.70 (All-In), Hero calls $25.70

Total pot: $72.70 | Rake: $0.50

Spoiler:
Results:
SB had 7, 6 (three of a kind, sevens).
Hero had J, A (two pair, Aces and sevens).
Outcome: SB won $72.20




Hand #2 - Same villain

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) ($63.25)
BB ($61.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
Hero bets $1.40, BB raises to $5, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $9

Flop: ($28) J, A, 3 (2 players)
BB bets $47.45 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $28 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
BB didn't show
Outcome: BB won $27.50


Hand #3 - Villain was loose and sort of passive/cally I think..

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Hero (BB) ($53.20)
SB ($51.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $3.50, SB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7) 10, 5, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50

Turn: ($16) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

River: ($27) J (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $10.50, Hero calls $10.50

Total pot: $48 | Rake: $0.50

Spoiler:
Results:
SB had 5, 5 (full house, fives over tens).
Hero mucked K, K (two pair, Kings and tens).
Outcome: SB won $47.50



Hand #4 - Same villain as 3

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) ($56.25)
BB ($51.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, A
Hero bets $1.40, BB calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.80) 6, 2, 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.80) A (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($10.80) K (2 players)
BB bets $14.50, Hero calls $14.50

Total pot: $39.80 | Rake: $0.50

Spoiler:
Results:
Hero mucked 9, A (one pair, Aces).
BB had A, K (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: BB won $39.30


Overall, I think I have a few spewy leaks in my game, someone please help me identify some spots where I may be going wrong, I am sort of new to heads up, and am trying to teach myself.

Thanks all

MB

Last edited by MajinBoob; 10-12-2009 at 06:20 AM.
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10-12-2009 , 06:17 AM
Hand 1: bet turn 4 value esp. ag. this kind of maniac . as played fold river. villain should rarely be bluffing here since you c/overcalled his turn overbet.

Hand 2: fine

Hand 3: Since villain is sort of loose/passive I tend to at least bet turn for information and value, considering to fold vs a raise if villain is the guy that would play his monsters straight-forward. (without proper read I rather stack off here I think)

hand 4: i would talk myself into a call on the river as well I think, in fact villain is repping nuts / air here. you could probably fold river If you assume villain is not the regular donk who would be scared if you call off his bluffs on A high street. but tbh i would talk myself into a call here too lol
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10-12-2009 , 06:20 AM
Thanks, good analysis.
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10-12-2009 , 06:22 AM
Hand 1
Id bet the turn as well but the result would be the same

Hand 2
Id play the same

Hand 3
wp ul imo

Hand 4
I cbet the flop but the result might have been even worse
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10-12-2009 , 06:33 AM
hand 1) bet more on flop ($2.00-$2.50). Bet turn. Turn is a bet/call or bet/fold depending on villian. He might 3 barrel bluff air, but he might only ever c/r strong hands, so it's probably a bet/fold. As played, I fold river. Flush got there, and unless villian is an aggro mainiac, there isn't any a/x hands that he plays this way.

Hand 2) this is really close, a lot closer than hand 1 imo. Im inclined to call this. Doubt he has a strong ace, because he would rather let you cbet. Weak aces are probably check/calling so I guess he has a draw, a jack or air a lot here. I'm calling.

Hand 3) nh I think. I guess you could b/f turn if he is really passive so any reraise will be really face up.

Hand 4) If he's passive, I'm folding river.

I'm not going to look at spoilers until after I post so i hope I got most of them right
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10-12-2009 , 06:48 AM
#1
bet Turn yourself, he is calling for his complete Stack with all Ax with should be a huge Part of his Range. When you go for c/c c/c you give hime the oppurtunity to cb his Ax on the Turn or River and loose Value.

#2
I tend to call, doesn`t make sense for him to do this with Ax, so i think he has some sort of Draw most of the time

#3
against a loose/cally, i bet this Turn myself. Dont think he´s folding any PP and any Gutshot on the Turn, which he will cb. So again you loose Value be ck.

#4
I think, folding River is fne. When those guys overbet the River it´s usually a very strong hand + there aren´t to much draws he can bluff with
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10-12-2009 , 07:38 AM
Interesting thoughts thanks guys, keep em coming
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10-12-2009 , 08:38 AM
dont understand the "paid me off 3barrel bluffing". Did you bluff 3 barrel and he called 3 times?

hand 1:
I would raise more pre, because i dont like to play oop, so lets give him bad odds to come play with his crap. 2$ to 2.5$.
I would bet turn. Lot of draws out there, we make value from weaker aces. Bet more on flop also.

hand 2
nh imo. We will prbbly get bluffed a number of times here. but when we do call and he does have the ace its a bigger mistake than if we fold imo, and well we are just guessing.

hand 3:
I dont think your line is horrible, but I think there are more hands than Tx in his range, so I think you should fire turn as well, especially with the read that he is passive/cally.

hand 4:
meh I dont like his two overbets, especially from a passive player. Dunno if I am strong enough to fold though
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10-12-2009 , 10:01 AM
Jesus villain found you love to call overbets, please stop doing that
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10-12-2009 , 10:19 AM
you're biggest leak is trying to go for pot control on the turn when it's not appropriate. you should be betting out a lot of hands on the turn.
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10-12-2009 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LOLDONKBETZ
Jesus villain found you love to call overbets, please stop doing that
Was the first time he had done it, and I had a decent hand, I guess I should have just read it as strength.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gugel
you're biggest leak is trying to go for pot control on the turn when it's not appropriate. you should be betting out a lot of hands on the turn.
Thanks, this makes a lot of sense, I also need to fold more on the river I think.
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10-13-2009 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Gugel
you're biggest leak is trying to go for pot control on the turn when it's not appropriate. you should be betting out a lot of hands on the turn.
This, bet more thinly on turn. What is happening is that you are letting his worse hands get to showdown (that would pay you off if you bet) and you are continuing to let him get paid off by betting the hands that beat you.
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10-13-2009 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rbracco
This, bet more thinly on turn. What is happening is that you are letting his worse hands get to showdown (that would pay you off if you bet) and you are continuing to let him get paid off by betting the hands that beat you.
yep spot on
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10-13-2009 , 07:42 AM
hand1) i think we should try to get 3bets into this pot so betting the flop is standard and after his call you have two options

the 7 could have helped him but he could also have an ace or just floated so the check is good because we arent afraid of many river cards. A check looks weak by the way and could motivate him to bluff if he floated... i like the check-call on the turn and river

hand2) you tried to create a big pot preflop with QQ which is definitely recommended and i wouldnt play the hand differently. Its very likely that he called you with some sort like AT-AK,...
A call cant be good here only if you estimate hes bluffing a lot portion of the time which makes a call profitable.

hand3) most of the times i would fire here on the flop for sure... he overbet the turn so that could be many hands from a slow played set on the flop till a complete bluff,... his second barrel on the river showes really strength so i would put him on a set here or a straight... Its again depending on how much you think hes bluffing in a spot like this. You can only beat a bluff again.
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10-13-2009 , 07:51 AM
hand 1)
dont check turn, you can fold to a raise (youll keep the pot smaller that way)

hand 2)
i would call, but im a calling station, cant see why he wouldnt want ur cbet out if he has a strong hand. think he got some kind of gutter or jack or flushdraw

hand 3) dont give up just because the 10 hits, 2.barrel and fold to a raise, fold or check river if he gets out of hand.

hand 4) his overbetting could be a betsize leak, except from hand 3 (in which he is obviously afraid youll fold cause u are scared of the 10), he tends to overbet very strong hands.
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