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10-13-2009 , 08:30 AM
Are we just hoping to check this down...?? Should have 3bet bigger imo..

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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CO: $52.30
BTN: $50.75
Hero (SB): $206.55
BB: $45.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with A K
CO raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5.50, BB calls $5, CO calls $3.75

Flop: ($16.50) A J Q (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks

Turn: ($16.50) K (3 players)
Hero ...
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10-13-2009 , 08:32 AM
bet flop
bet turn
??????
profit
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10-13-2009 , 08:36 AM
You got to be betting that flop for starters
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10-13-2009 , 08:38 AM
meh bet flop. U can easily let it go on turn if u get some serious action but still have to be the flop, even though it looks like we're not getting called by better, for protection
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10-13-2009 , 08:38 AM
3bet size is good, obv bet flop, turn is ok, is a j in his range, probs not, stacks please
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10-13-2009 , 08:58 AM
I don't get why we are betting for protection.. There aren't many FDs in these guys ranges, so we are bet/folding to protect against gutshots?? I don't see a ton of worse hands that call... Maybe AT/KQ/TT.

A BB Calling range often looks like TT-QQ and sometimes AQ/AK. so I duno if we can say his range is behind our range. So we bet to find out? Seems kind of like the 'bet for information' that most of us say is bad.
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10-13-2009 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by qazikm2000
I don't get why we are betting for protection.. There aren't many FDs in these guys ranges, so we are bet/folding to protect against gutshots?? I don't see a ton of worse hands that call... Maybe AT/KQ/TT.

A BB Calling range often looks like TT-QQ and sometimes AQ/AK. so I duno if we can say his range is behind our range. So we bet to find out? Seems kind of like the 'bet for information' that most of us say is bad.
so, was your plan was to c/r, c/c or c/f this Flop?
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10-13-2009 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by qazikm2000
I don't get why we are betting for protection.. There aren't many FDs in these guys ranges, so we are bet/folding to protect against gutshots?? I don't see a ton of worse hands that call... Maybe AT/KQ/TT.

A BB Calling range often looks like TT-QQ and sometimes AQ/AK. so I duno if we can say his range is behind our range. So we bet to find out? Seems kind of like the 'bet for information' that most of us say is bad.
erh so ur advocating a c/f then?
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10-13-2009 , 09:23 AM
Yuck, that's ugly. Bet flop. Check the turn and if they go wild, I think we can go out.

oh and if the river is a King you need to fold because Villain usually has AdAs, and theres 2x the possibility because there are 2 villains.
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10-13-2009 , 09:31 AM
I guess I was planning on a c/f... didn't expect ppl to bluff or vbet worse... I might c/c one street. maybe I'm just a lifenit.

Ok after the help of you wonderful folk, I have changed my mind to betting $9.5 on flop.
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10-13-2009 , 09:42 AM
Villains' stats or reads here would REALLY HELP in the OP
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10-13-2009 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by lima
Villains' stats or reads here would REALLY HELP in the OP
True...

BB was 23/18 with a 3bet of 18%(over 35 instances so this is legit aggro imo), squeeze happy, 3bet IP happy, AF of 1.5 with most of that being on the flop. I assume he is flatting like... 99-JJ and maybe AQs, sometimes AK. I assume his not cold flatting light. Prob 4betting QQ+, AKs+.

CO was 21/17 over 50 hands. Other stats are too small of a sample to be relevant.. I assume he is flatting with like all PPs, a ton of SC's and maybe like ATs-AQs, he might 4bet like QQ+ and AKs+.
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10-14-2009 , 04:14 AM
stupid database error deleted my reply (which was pretty large) and that happened on numerous occasions lately...

I'm not gonna rewrite it...

does that happen to other posters too?
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10-14-2009 , 07:06 AM
bet da flop wtf
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10-14-2009 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by lima
does that happen to other posters too?
No that doesn't happen to me... But I would quite appreciate hearing what you had to think given my reads.
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