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50NL -- Okay to x/c w/A-high here? 50NL -- Okay to x/c w/A-high here?

08-04-2022 , 09:03 AM
Villain is 14/10 over 29 hands, so no reads really. I guess its good that we block A3s and AQ-KQ, but I assume it depends on how we play our AA-KK, JJ-88 here. Feel like we can keep value betting some of those. Thanks

WPN, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $33.70 (67.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $60.75 (121.5 bb)
UTG: $60 (120 bb)
MP: $56.24 (112.5 bb)
CO: $69.90 (139.8 bb)
BTN: $46.29 (92.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.25, SB folds, Hero raises to $5.50, BTN calls $4.25

Flop: ($11.25) Q 3 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $3.56, BTN calls $3.56

Turn: ($18.37) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $9.65, Hero?
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08-04-2022 , 02:28 PM
Yes x/c, villain should have a reasonable amount of bluffs here. AA check because you block his checkbacks and don't need protection, KK mostly bet because you block a lot of bluffs and unblock the A high calls, JJ could go either way.
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08-04-2022 , 02:52 PM
I love a 1/2 to 2/3 bet on paired boards in 3 bet pots OOP like this. When betting that amount you typically just can continue to bet with AA, KK, JJ, TT here for like 1/2 pot again. AK is I believe kind of indifferent to betting again then or checking.

As played betting 1/3 on this flop I think checking with AK is much better to C/C, depending on his bet size, since he called the flop with a wider range. Against 1/2 pot bet I think you call and see a river.
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08-04-2022 , 03:45 PM
I don't like c/c, because idk how often this type of broken stack nitty guy floats with air and runs some elaborate bluff in a big pot, and most people just check the turn with pairs or Aces.
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08-05-2022 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AskZandar
I don't like c/c, because idk how often this type of broken stack nitty guy floats with air and runs some elaborate bluff in a big pot, and most people just check the turn with pairs or Aces.
Agreed that we block some A-high floats, but our sample size is too small to determine they are a nit. I think the main factor is how often we get here with pairs.
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08-05-2022 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 0NoobiePoker0
I love a 1/2 to 2/3 bet on paired boards in 3 bet pots OOP like this. When betting that amount you typically just can continue to bet with AA, KK, JJ, TT here for like 1/2 pot again. AK is I believe kind of indifferent to betting again then or checking.

As played betting 1/3 on this flop I think checking with AK is much better to C/C, depending on his bet size, since he called the flop with a wider range. Against 1/2 pot bet I think you call and see a river.
AskZandar makes a good point that how often is villain really floating with non Ace-high hands. Population just does not do it as often imo, but yea seems like we need to stick around for at least one more street. Problem is, we block so much AQ-KQ then a case can be made for calling a river bet as well.
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08-05-2022 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JamAdebayo
Yes x/c, villain should have a reasonable amount of bluffs here. AA check because you block his checkbacks and don't need protection, KK mostly bet because you block a lot of bluffs and unblock the A high calls, JJ could go either way.
Seems like we are splitting our pocket pairs into either pot controlling because they don't need much protection and value betting thinly for a small size otf, but then x/c those ott?
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08-05-2022 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Franchise804
Seems like we are splitting our pocket pairs into either pot controlling because they don't need much protection and value betting thinly for a small size otf, but then x/c those ott?
I was talking about this turn spot specifically; you can range bet this flop, which is why I like your small sizing (though if it were even better for you like JJ3 you can range bet for 1/2p, but the 3bet caller often has a lot of Qx)
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08-05-2022 , 02:27 PM
villain has lots of pockets in this board or even some trip combos. Not necessary to continue with AK here with no BD. With you K, which is not a good card to continue as it blocks lots of bluff like KJs KTs etc. just simply call with all your pockets & QX.
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08-05-2022 , 06:49 PM
QQ flops sucks for 3bettor in those positions, villan dont have any 4bet bluffs that contain Q, but have plenty of calls with Qx, what is weakest hand that villain is calling vs 1/4 or 1/3? jts with bdfd?
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08-05-2022 , 11:09 PM
the value hands are most likely pocket pairs, AQ, A3s. Bluff hands are some non A-high trash suited boardway hands.
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