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03-07-2011 , 06:46 PM
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27/9/2.0AF 12 hands, 1 table

This might be standard, but do I shove here? I was afraid that he would fold one pair hands, and thought he would reraise anyway if he had a straight.

    Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8118152

    BB: $39.70 (79.4 bb)
    UTG+1: $54.35 (108.7 bb)
    UTG+2: $55.20 (110.4 bb)
    MP1: $45.75 (91.5 bb)
    MP2: $53.55 (107.1 bb)
    MP3: $50 (100 bb)
    CO: $50 (100 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)
    SB: $44.75 (89.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 8
    6 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, SB calls $1, BB folds

    Flop: ($3) 5 7 9 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($3) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets $1, Hero calls $1

    River: ($5) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets $3, Hero raises to $14, SB calls $11

    Spoiler:
    Results: $33 pot ($1.60 rake)
    Final Board: 5 7 9 8 8
    Hero showed 7 8 and won $31.40 ($15.15 net)
    SB mucked J T and lost (-$16.25 net)



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    03-07-2011 , 07:06 PM
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    Well if we do shove here we are only getting called by 8x JT 6x. Considering you 2.5x from button I could see him coming in w/ A8 A6 and i guess JT. So hands we will get value from are limited so I like the sizing because it looks like a bluff.

    Also he would have 3bet TT+ so I don't think those are in his range.
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    03-07-2011 , 07:08 PM
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    if villain is passive i like a cbet here
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    03-07-2011 , 07:11 PM
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    Yeah I don't really know what I was thinking...any comments on the river sizing though?
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    03-07-2011 , 07:12 PM
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    prolly shove, or make it like 25
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    03-07-2011 , 08:29 PM
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    bet flop turn makes a shove easier. Any reason for not betting flop?
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    03-07-2011 , 08:47 PM
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    I should have, don't know what I was doing

    ( he can call with FD, 5x worse 7x worse draws, I pot gets bigger by the time I hit etc etc)
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    03-07-2011 , 10:34 PM
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    so if he bets the flop then bets the turn and gets check raised big/ he should shove and pray for his 4 outer?
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    03-08-2011 , 12:17 AM
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    as played to the river I like a larger raise. Villain's calling range is pretty inelastic given action. I also like firing flop.
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    03-08-2011 , 01:37 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pokerarb
    prolly shove, or make it like 25
    this
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    03-08-2011 , 03:08 PM
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    Given the board, if he isn't bluffing he is going to have a hard time letting go of his hand so I think a shove is best.

    Side note: is it just me or do you all find that ppl are more likely to think you are bluffing when you shove than making a solid value bet OTR?
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    03-08-2011 , 03:15 PM
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    not the nuts
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