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50NL: KK in 4bet pot vs nitty reg 50NL: KK in 4bet pot vs nitty reg

01-08-2010 , 12:28 PM
Villain is 15/12 w 0%3b, he has seen me 3b Q9s and have been running 26/23. Again, I doubt these nitty guys adjust, but maybe.


Pokerstars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BB: $20
Hero (UTG): $97
CO: $66.45
BTN: $50
SB: $50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $6.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to
$14.00, CO calls

Std. My 4b size is a decent portion part of my stack but its about the smallest I cud make it. Its irrelevant anyways cos Im prob never 4b/folding in this spot so I don't need to balance or 4b a size that I can get away from.

Flop: ($28.75) A 7 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Against this type of player I think he is either trapping with AA or has AK/QQ and didnt want to get it in PF. I guess he can have JJ too maybe. I check here to c/f. He never bets any of his s/d hands and its very unlikely he has any bluffs in his range here.

Turn: ($28.75) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $16, CO calls

I bet the turn for value. After he c/b I doubt hes getting tricky with AK. His range is very likely QQ with maybe JJ or AA. Should I check again because its unlikely I can get 2 streets from him with his underpair?

River: ($60.75) 3 (2 players)
Hero goes all in for $20

On the river I figure I'm ahead a decent amount. I cant see him calling with pairs as low as 8,7 or 6 PF so sets are out. AK is doubtful and I have K blockers too. QQ/JJ is prob what he has a lot so I shove for value. He prob never gets a away from them cos its only a 1/3 pot and he unlikely puts me on an A. Spew??
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01-08-2010 , 12:34 PM
You're only getting one street of value from a nit, pick what street you want it to be on.

I prefer check, check bet.
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01-08-2010 , 12:43 PM
I don't like the turn bet, you are in the dark there and only getting called by better imo...He won't call w/ QQ or JJ, first because he's a nit, and by checking the flop you can still perfectly rep AA or AK.
+ as you see you are pretty much commited by betting turn.
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01-08-2010 , 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mygibbs
You're only getting one street of value from a nit, pick what street you want it to be on.

I prefer check, check bet.
right and obv c/f turn if he bets
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01-08-2010 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fattony7891
right and obv c/f turn if he bets
Right.

I picked the river because people are much likely to call when it's only one more bet FYI.
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01-08-2010 , 01:19 PM
his preflop reraise is a little large....really makes me think JJ/QQ. I think he'd go to $4.50 or $5 with AA. These spots with KK make me hurl tho. I'd probably check it down and bet the river if he checks flop and turn. These guys will usually not bluff in these spots with TT/JJ/QQ. If he bets at you, there's a good chance you're toast.
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01-08-2010 , 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mygibbs
You're only getting one street of value from a nit, pick what street you want it to be on.

I prefer check, check bet.
+1

I'm going for a cheap showdown here. Nits don't usually bluff in big pots.
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01-08-2010 , 01:53 PM
Yea, know that I think about it. c/f turn and vbet river if it checks through is def a superior line. I just really thought QQ was nearly the only hand in his range and wnated to get value. But the river is def the best place to llok for that value.

FWIW he 86s, seriously.
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01-08-2010 , 02:57 PM
[x] spew
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01-08-2010 , 03:00 PM
How come your reraise on the flop was so small? I'm thinking about making it somewhere around $18-20, about 3x his raise. Or is that considered too spewy with kings?

I'm also probably cbetting that flop as pretty much only an ace, SD or FD can call If the call/raise happens, I'm dumping the hand. I think by checking the flop, you handed him the pot since you didn't rep the set/tptk.
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