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11-28-2008 , 10:46 AM

Exar_Kun

adept

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,198

Villian: 13/9/4 after 100 hands.

I decided to flat call here because villian was so nitty, I think by 3betting ill either fold him or end up getting dominated or slight favourite (jj+/AK)

Therefore by this reasoning just flat calling should be the best option on the flop for the same reasons above ?

As played std. fold?

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Dealt to Hero J

fold, fold, CO raises to $2, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.50,

FLOP ($4.25) T

check, CO bets $3, Hero raises to $10, CO raises to $46, Hero std. fold ?

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11-28-2008 , 10:55 AM

YouCheckRaise

Pooh-Bah

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fraid so

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11-28-2008 , 10:58 AM

Gorvacofin

old hand

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,657

Because he's opening tight, it doesn't necessarily mean he's not defending to 3bets. I still 3-bet this because you're ahead of his cutoff range and JJ is hard to play out of position. It's not such a bad thing to just make him fold and take down the pot.

I probably flat flop and re-evaluate turn. Easy fold to the shove imo. I think you're going to be crushed by a higher pair of flipping vs a nut FD type hand.

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11-28-2008 , 11:48 AM

Exar_Kun

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I agree just because he is so nitty it doesnt mean hes not defending; but it just seems more likely that he will just fold his worse hands and call with better.

I suppose he would definitely just call with AK so we would make another bet by 3betting in this case, and would probably much to a flop bet if he doesn't hit.

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11-28-2008 , 01:42 PM

The flying-donkey

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,374

Pre-flop I 3 bet, 13/9 is tight but he could have been relatively card dead for a 100 hands, so its conclusive. He might in effect be a 15/12, which my guess is you would 3 bet against right?

Flop- You have to fold to the shove, sorry like others have pointed out your most likely crushed or flipping.

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11-28-2008 , 02:00 PM

DaSolution

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 119

agree with 3 betting pre if he 4 bet shoves ez fold.

Flop as played i would c/c and see what he does on turn and yes it's a ez fold to push.

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11-28-2008 , 02:15 PM

Belkelbro

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only hand you're beating is A10 I guess its a fold.

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11-28-2008 , 02:17 PM

Nikee

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 467

3bet pre, 100 hand sample is nothing. Raising this flop is pretty much turning your hand into a bluff if you do not intend to stack off here. It folds out all worse hands and only allows better hands to call. Even if villain flatted you're c/r, you would still be in a tricky spot on the turn despite any turn card.

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11-28-2008 , 02:29 PM

dollarcoin

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 587

Not a good spot to c/r the flop.

What worse hands call? He's a nit, so it's not likely there is much Tx in his range. If he has a draw it's probably overcards like AQs he'll jam with. You also aren't folding out anything better.

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