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[LOW] 50NL -- how do you play this combo draw OTT?

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08-03-2022 , 09:02 AM

Franchise804

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Villain is 18/15 over 347 hands. I guess it depends on if we cbet KJs otf, but imo our choices are b/c or CRAI. Thoughts?

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $91.01 (182 bb)
Hero (BB): $60 (120 bb)
UTG: $50 (100 bb)
MP: $59.86 (119.7 bb)
CO: $52.94 (105.9 bb)
BTN: $28.68 (57.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T

2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5.50, CO calls $4.25

Flop: ($11.25) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $3.56, CO calls $3.56

Turn: ($18.37) J

(2 players)
Hero?

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08-03-2022 , 10:04 AM

0NoobiePoker0

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AP I'd bet like 1/3 to 1/2 on the turn. PF is typically more a call in theory I know.

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08-03-2022 , 10:22 AM

JamAdebayo

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Originally Posted by 0NoobiePoker0

AP I'd bet like 1/3 to 1/2 on the turn. PF is typically more a call in theory I know.

Depends on our sizing scheme/how we're constructing our range. With a bigger 3b and thus more polarized range we'd be pure flatting, but 3betting to 11bb I think this gets in there at a reasonable frequency. And is the kind of hand you want to exploitatively 3b if they under4b, as discussed in your other thread.

As played ott I think we have to x/jam at least some % of the time with this hand, but betting is also fine because its a high frequency bet for your range in general since the J is good for you. Wouldn't go bigger than 1/2p because you don't want to invite the jam.

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08-03-2022 , 10:28 AM

Slasher-

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What to do if villain calls turn bet and river bricks? Chk/fold or Jam?

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08-03-2022 , 02:53 PM

Gotural

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I like check raising in this spot. Betting is good too. Hard to go wrong with a combo draw tbh.

If you bet turn they call and you brick river it's a must check give up fold combo. We don't want to bluff river with high missed flush draws.

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08-04-2022 , 09:08 AM

Franchise804

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Originally Posted by 0NoobiePoker0

AP I'd bet like 1/3 to 1/2 on the turn. PF is typically more a call in theory I know.

So we are just bet/calling it off, right?

Let's say we only have the nut flushdraw and no gutter to go with it...

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08-04-2022 , 09:11 AM

Franchise804

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Originally Posted by JamAdebayo

As played ott I think we have to x/jam at least some % of the time with this hand, but betting is also fine because its a high frequency bet for your range in general since the J is good for you. Wouldn't go bigger than 1/2p because you don't want to invite the jam.

So one thing I was doing too much was CRAI w/my draws...the solver really only likes to do that with their combo draws, so that's why I posted this one.

I guess CO flats some JJ vs our 3bet and has the same amount of KJs so this is a neutral turn card imo, so we can either x or bet.

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08-04-2022 , 10:18 AM

0NoobiePoker0

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Originally Posted by Franchise804

So we are just bet/calling it off, right?

Let's say we only have the nut flushdraw and no gutter to go with it...

I think if you bet like 1/2 on the turn and he ships I think it's a call with FD and the gutter, without the gutter I think we'd find it's a more borderline call.

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08-05-2022 , 08:13 AM

Franchise804

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Originally Posted by 0NoobiePoker0

without the gutter I think we'd find it's a more borderline call.

I am seeing the solver just x/c this category of draws because its a disaster to fold so much equity but also never a clear call. I suppose we would rather just b/c with some pairs that don't block some of villain possible flushdraw semi-bluffs.

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