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08-24-2009 , 08:33 PM
Party Poker $1000.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN/SB: $4156.50
Hero (BB): $3749.50

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BB with A A
BTN/SB raises to $30, Hero raises to $110, BTN/SB calls $80

Flop: ($220.00) T 3 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $169.00, BTN/SB raises to $480, Hero raises to $1040, BTN/SB calls $560

Turn: ($2300.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $890.00, BTN/SB calls $890

River: ($4080.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1709.50, BTN/SB calls $1709.50


Villain in this hand is a reg fish. Plays most hands ok, but generally is a non-believer, calls ~70% 3bets, loves to make epic hero calls, and has to make up for the fact that he calls so many 3bet pots by making moves. I've been 3betting about 17% and have been playing this villain on a few tables for about 6 hours. Villain hasn't yet worked out that I stopped trying to bluff him a few hours back and instead focusing on razor thin value as he has still been hero calling with 4th/5th pair etc very recently. Tends not to 3barrel bluff once he has started a flop move.

First question is on the flop 3bet/sizing and second on the turn betsizing. Thoughts?

Example of his hero calls:


Party Poker $1000.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): $3639.75
BTN/SB: $1652.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BB with Q K
BTN/SB raises to $30, Hero raises to $105, BTN/SB calls $75

Flop: ($210.00) 3 8 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $135.00, BTN/SB calls $135

Turn: ($480.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $255.00, BTN/SB calls $255

River: ($990.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $720.00, BTN/SB calls $720

Final Pot: $2430.00
Hero shows Q K
BTN/SB shows 2 2
BTN/SB wins $2429.00
(Rake: $1.00)

(obv played near the start of the match)

Last edited by $upermad4it; 08-24-2009 at 08:54 PM.
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08-24-2009 , 08:41 PM
wow that is NASTY thin on the flop. It makes you looks smart that he just went call/call/call because this was obviously your plan.

I dunno if I could help myself from flatting the flop and letting him hang himself.
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08-24-2009 , 08:57 PM
I think if you 3ball the flop you need ot make it a size so you can pot size shove the turn.
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08-24-2009 , 08:59 PM
I dont really see how that makes any difference and I'm more inclined to choose a betsize based on how callable/FOS it looks.
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08-24-2009 , 09:06 PM
Because it's much harder for you to be bluffing with the line you took. Why make him convince himself to call two "bluffs" when he can call one?
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08-24-2009 , 09:10 PM
Your flop reraise and small turn bet are incongruous.
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08-24-2009 , 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleD
I think if you 3ball the flop you need ot make it a size so you can pot size shove the turn.
This was my first thought
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08-25-2009 , 02:16 AM
i dunno u think he raises flop w/Tx this deep
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08-25-2009 , 03:18 AM
yeah why the small bet on the turn?
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08-25-2009 , 05:12 AM
I dont know why ure so anxious to get so much money in with AA. he really has to call u down light there...
Id just play it slower and try to get to showdown more cheaply. I would also 3bet a bit bigger to be able to get it in on most turns.

uh, just saw thats what the others had been writing mostly. anyway...
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08-25-2009 , 09:24 AM
he seems to ahve shown a propensity to call down very light.

pretty sure i like it, i would realllyyyy like it if you have a v. aggro image and he has been raising cbets in RR pots at a decent-to-high frequency
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08-25-2009 , 01:16 PM
I think getting it in here is fine given history. I'd raise more on the flop and ship the turn. I'm not sure that betting 890 on the turn looks any more FOS than a quick shove.
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08-25-2009 , 01:38 PM
if he raise/calls on the flop then calls turn and river with one pair that is worse than AA he is truly ******ed. so in case he was ******ed like **** your line is fine but then nobody in this forum can decide on the level of ******edness of your specific opponent. there is also a difference in people making hero calls with a 100BB stack as opposed to a 350BB stack.
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08-26-2009 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sickofitall
if he raise/calls on the flop then calls turn and river with one pair that is worse than AA he is truly ******ed.
this is what i was wondering about
altho if he has been raising cb in RR pots a ton then its fine imo (what SA said)
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