Have never studied these/4bet pf spots. In retrospect my play sets me up horribly, it makes a lot more sense to 5bet or fold (without any concrete reads fold) to not get put in that tricky facing flop jam spot where Im likely facing set or overpair. What do you think?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 366.5 BB
BTN: 99.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 15.04, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 115)
SB: 110.5 BB (VPIP: 24.52, PFR: 18.06, 3Bet Preflop: 5.36, Hands: 158)
BB: 78 BB (VPIP: 94.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 72)
UTG: 185 BB (VPIP: 38.03, PFR: 28.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 71)
MP: 335 BB (VPIP: 26.47, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 68)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

UTG calls 1 BB, MP raises to 5 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to 51.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 36.5 BB

Flop: (109.5 BB, 2 players) 7 9 8
UTG bets 133.5 BB and is all-in, fold

You're facing a limp cold 4-bet from UTG deep. Fold pref-flop.

Villan is playing his hand face up.

As a general rule vs an unknown micro player: when UTG 4bets or limp/raises large as here you can fold pretty much everything including *gasps* QQ/JJ/AKo

Exceptions would be vs a wild/fun player or decent reg, but they are exceptions.

Micros When they 4/5b to 35-50bb it's a fish with KK/AA that is terrified you'll fold to jam the limp then this action makes it even more obvious

Since you and MP are deep, I think you should 3bet a bit bigger. And fold to the cold 4bet, as others have said.

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thanks pops, TylerRMs bot analyzing thread made me finally make an account on here, very interesting stuff thought i might aswell try improve my game here too