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02-08-2024 , 01:43 AM
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Vilain is an excellent, very technical reg that normally plays at higher limits.

What do you think of my play turn?

Winamax - €4 NL (5 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 37.78 BB
UTG: 158.41 BB
CO: 149.55 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 A

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) K Q J
UTG checks, Hero bets 5.6 BB, UTG calls 5.6 BB

Turn: (28.7 BB, 2 players) T
UTG checks, Hero Hero bets 86.4 BB and is all-in
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02-08-2024 , 02:19 AM
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Personally, I'm an occasional NL10 player who tried a little shoot for fun.
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02-08-2024 , 06:41 AM
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Fold pre if he is that much better than you.

Smaller otf. Turn is not good he can pretty much call you with Ax maybe some sets, but in spots where both players can have so many nuts you should use small sizing to get value from 99 2p ect.
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02-08-2024 , 01:05 PM
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good luck getting value
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02-08-2024 , 02:14 PM
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You're way better off betting small and hoping for crying calls, then just getting calls for splits and paying rake, or getting the occasional set crying call. Fold pre.
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02-08-2024 , 04:31 PM
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Fold pre if he is that much better than you.

Smaller otf. Turn is not good he can pretty much call you with Ax maybe some sets, but in spots where both players can have so many nuts you should use small sizing to get value from 99 2p ect.
It's true but in this case I don't consider him stronger than me, ok he plays at higher limits but I still acquired a lot of knowledge and science in micro limit.

Otherwise I hear the arguments for bet small, nevertheless for various reasons, for the moment I still consider my play slightly better against this specific profile.
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02-08-2024 , 04:32 PM
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good luck getting value
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02-08-2024 , 04:32 PM
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jamming is awful just stop
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02-08-2024 , 04:34 PM
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jamming is awful just stop
Are you sure ?

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02-08-2024 , 04:55 PM
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Villain's range is basically 2p+. If you bet small they can donk pairing rivers and bluff you off a straight.

Cool play, I'd still rather just bet smaller and hope villain is dumb enough to check when river pairs. Or they call with too much 2p.

Lol @ "I don't consider him stronger than me, ok he plays at higher limits but I still acquired a lot of knowledge and science in micro limit."
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02-08-2024 , 05:10 PM
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Are you sure ?
Yes because population underbluffs.

Justifying your play with some esoteric solver play is missing the forest for the trees.
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02-08-2024 , 07:17 PM
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Obvious troll but this is good quality trolling ^^
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02-09-2024 , 01:42 AM
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Yes because population underbluffs.

Justifying your play with some esoteric solver play is missing the forest for the trees.
In an X or small bet strategy, it's not "esoteric" to get donk shove range on 26% of the river deck with an easily identifiable huge deficit of nutted hands and see the EV of the majority of our value range made up of Ax become catastrophic, these are concrete things that happen in real life against top players as specified in the preamble.

Thank you all for your comments.

From this hand, I understood that my place was not in 10NL, nor in 400NL but in the highest limits online to fight on equal terms with my peers.

Thank you.
Last edited by GTOautistic; 02-09-2024 at 01:55 AM.
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02-09-2024 , 02:46 AM
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I have seen gtoaustism on the winmax tables and can confirm he is the top reg. Not sure why he hasnt been holding the 2knl lobby
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02-09-2024 , 07:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GTOautistic
In an X or small bet strategy, it's not "esoteric" to get donk shove range on 26% of the river deck with an easily identifiable huge deficit of nutted hands and see the EV of the majority of our value range made up of Ax become catastrophic, these are concrete things that happen in real life against top players as specified in the preamble.

Thank you all for your comments.

From this hand, I understood that my place was not in 10NL, nor in 400NL but in the highest limits online to fight on equal terms with my peers.

Thank you.
I agree with you. Please, play the highest limits you can to fight on equal terms

Last edited by aner0; 02-09-2024 at 07:51 AM.
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02-09-2024 , 03:04 PM
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What is the post about? lol
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02-11-2024 , 10:05 AM
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Are you sure ?
The EV is the exact same on all options - because pretty much it's gonna not mater much what you do, i guess in the off chance the guy mis clicks and calls your over bet or puts you on nothing for what ever reason. I still think what ever option you do he probably just folds unless he has equity and you bet small enough.

that being said, I can't think jamming all in on the turn is the best play. Not sure why you are arguing it - it's not a very interesting hand.
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