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09-23-2015 , 08:39 AM
Hi guys,

Quick hand, vilain is a reg, but don't have many info on him at that time. My image is aggro. We have both $400

Vilain open $10 CO
I peel KsQd on the BTN. Both blinds fold.

Flop : Kd Js 9d

Vilain check, Hero bet $20. Vilain raises to 70$. Hero calls.

Turn : 4c

Vilain bets 100$. Hero calls.

River : Qs.

Vilain shoves. Hero ?


What do you think his c/r range on the flop is ? And what range do you call river ?

Obv we block QQ, KK, and AQdd pretty hard but don't block his AJdd, ATdd type of hand.


Cheers
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09-23-2015 , 11:54 AM
doubt he has many bluffs in his range on a board like this, and that c/r sizing is good enough for me to let go OTF.
I'd probably 3bet pre based on your reads.
As played fold flop, fold turn.
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09-24-2015 , 04:50 AM
hard to fold the flop, but i fold the turn.

if i called the turn i fold river.

but i would - never - bet this big on the flop.

15$ are absolutly enough.

also your hand analyzis is **** imo, he is not valuebetting less than Tx.
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09-27-2015 , 03:59 PM
For the flop decision i also fold on that check raise, you only have 3 outs clear (if its not a split), no implied odds and vilain will always barrel turn and put you in an unconfortable spot with KQ.
Fold flop is solid, flop turn is urgent, fold river is essential.
Vilain range his much more stronger than yours ( mostly set, straight two pairs or big draw) yu never have QTo and 3 bet most part of the time JJ and KK here i guess.

Check back kq flop here vs an opononent who has a check raising range here is maybe better especially if yu dont feel in a folding mood
PLus we dont have 3 streets of value here vs his check calling range.

Last edited by IZgame; 09-27-2015 at 04:06 PM.
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09-28-2015 , 02:33 PM
Flop and turn seem fine to me. Maybe I check back the flop if I know that this opponent has much of a check/raise range as the PFR in this spot.

I'd fold the river.

IME there is not much check/raising on the flop from the PFR so it would be nice to have some idea what this guy does it with.
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09-28-2015 , 07:27 PM
Fold the river all day but i think checking back the Flop is the best line for a couple of reasons:
1) he is an agrro villain só he is betting with any piece of the board, and even if he has a hand like XJ or QQ we can get value on later streets.
2) it puts some straight combos in your range when the turn is a T, protecting your range if villain overbets the pot.
3) weaker Ks will bet for value on latter streets anyway, probably 2 streets.
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