Read on villain.. Really passive but seems to be fairly solid.. has just been folding OOP alot and just choosing better hands to raise button with. Hasn't ever check raised or 3-bet me yet. He did show his hand but I don't think the results are worth anything.




PokerStars $33.00+$1.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2010/02/05 8:14:22 ET


Table '239765032 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jerk(1320 in chips)
Seat 2: BigJimJones (1680 in chips)
BigJimJones: posts small blind 15
Jerk: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BigJimJones [Ac Ad]
BigJimJones: raises 30 to 60
Jerk: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [5d Qs 8c]
Jerk: checks
BigJimJones: bets 90
Jerk: raises 180 to 270
BigJimJones: calls 180
*** TURN *** [5d Qs 8c] [Jc]
Jerk: bets 600
BigJimJones: folds
Uncalled bet (600) returned to Jerk
Jerk collected 660 from pot
Jerk: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 660 | Rake 0
Board [5d Qs 8c Jc]
Seat 1: Jerk(big blind) collected (660)
Seat 2: BigJimJones (button) (small blind) folded on the Turn

OMG! How can you fold to a donkbet on the turn holding the nut overpair?

I'm either 3b'ing the flop or shipping the turn w/o rediculously strong reads. we're 45bb deep w/ an overpair.

Thumbs down.

Really, you laid down the nut overpair to such a donk bet. Wow, you may want to move down limits. What did you put him on? QJ? 109o? What was your reasoning.

Looks like a hero fold so you could make a thread?, raise flop or flat flop is ok when its that dry but I prefer raise obv shipping turn 24/7.

don't be a dick

op's reasoning was obviously that one pair is likely no good when a tight/passive c/r flop, pot turn on board w/o many possible draws.

I normally play 100NL FR but a few days ago I decided to try Husngs just to see what they were like. I really have no experience in them so I decided to stick to small 33s. Ive only won 77 of the 108 that I have played but I think I just ran really hot and am terrible.

i 3bet flop. as played i prob ship turn. could possibly be different with like KQ or AQ but with an overpair there's way more strong Qx in his range imo.

cash is different cause ur deeper and one pair isn't always the nuts. husngs overpair is generally fist pump getting it in.

i mean yeah villain is passive so you're obv making the correct adjustment in being extremely cautious when he shows some aggression, which is good. but at the same time we have aces so sometimes you just have to say 'f*** you i'm getting it in i have an overpair if you have better then i'm putting it down as a cooler.'

I need five more people to tell me this was very bad fold against this type of opponent, because last ten times I went broke in similar situation I was behind. Some tight 22-33$ level players never (I mean NEVER) raise dry board with less than 2pair. And they know nobody folds TP, overpair here and its cr bet shove for them.
And If I cbet 5 last times against them and they folded 5 times, then they may play back at you but they are not going to pot the turn when you call.

And whats with the "donkbet turn"? Its not donkbet, he checkraised flop an obv bet turn after that....

a. raise more pf: 90 or 100.
b. 3 bet AI on flop.

P.S. This is about as far as you can get from fullstack FR. what was his cold call % from OOP? what was your pfr%? what was his fold to cbet stats?

sorry i've never played anyone at these levels that plays THAT tight.

Most players are certainly tighter preflop, but they are usually bad postflop.

Didn't mean to come over like a dick with my reply. If you're new to HUSNGs, I suggest you read the FAQ, Spamz0r's endgame article, and Spamz0r's hand history reviews. They'll serve you as a good starting point.

FR is very different from HU, so checking out those helpful posts will do wonders for your game.

GL

in this situation i really hate flatting the c/r. basically every turn card that's not an A makes it harder for you to call and/or kills your action when you're ahead.

even with the read of villain being tight, i probably still 3-bet flop some amount, possibly just jamming over his c/r because i don't want villain to talk himself out of Qx on later streets. i think we can discount the 2 pair combos somewhat if he's calling a tight range, and it's hard to make sets, so i'm not too concerned about being behind here. if you are, take a note and try to get a rematch.