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2nl: QQ versus raising nit 2nl: QQ versus raising nit

01-02-2012 , 03:04 PM
Opponent is a 10/4 with a 2.4 AF. When he called on the flop I put him on PP mining for a set. His behavior on the flop only confirmed my suspicions. I didn't think he would call preflop with a flush draw. There was a tiny chance that he had KK but I figured, with that, he would have raised preflop, and with my set on the flop I was good anyway. Right down to the river I put him on a smaller set. Anyone think that's a mistake?

    Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11483472

    BTN: $2.44 (122 bb)
    BB: $2.19 (109.5 bb)
    Hero (MP2): $2.81 (140.5 bb)
    MP3: $1.92 (96 bb)
    CO: $0.42 (21 bb)
    SB: $2.40 (120 bb)
    UTG+2: $0.98 (49 bb)
    MP1: $2 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q Q
    MP1 posts BB OOP, UTG+2 folds, MP1 checks, Hero raises to $0.10, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, 3 folds

    Flop: ($0.25) 6 9 Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.12, BTN raises to $0.44, Hero raises to $2.71 and is all-in, BTN calls $1.90 and is all-in

    Turn: ($4.93) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($4.93) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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    2nl: QQ versus raising nit Quote
    01-02-2012 , 03:28 PM
    Nice hand sir.

    I wouldn't necessarily say that he only calls with PPs from the button, maybe from the blinds but he could be calling with AQ, AJs, KJs, KQ and so on if he's positionally aware.

    When he's raising the flop he probably doesn't have KK or AA since he'd most likely 3bet them preflop. He could however have smaller sets, AQ/AK with As or a flush but you have good equity against a made flush already since you'll win if the board pairs.

    Don't fold and make it expensive for him to see a turn/river card.
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    01-02-2012 , 03:37 PM
    Post in the FR forum.

    As the above poster stated your range for him is too small, he has some FD combo's in his button range as well as small PP's

    Bigger on the flop, I doubt you can affect his calling range by your bet sizing.

    Other than that N/H

    sorry he hit his Straight Flush
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    01-02-2012 , 03:47 PM
    Mark, thanks for pointing out the part about the equity.

    Ziyu, where is the FR forum?
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    01-02-2012 , 04:01 PM
    About 3 below this one
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    01-02-2012 , 05:16 PM
    way more otf for value and get it in
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    01-02-2012 , 05:26 PM
    bet more otf. Other than that, you played it fine!
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    01-02-2012 , 06:03 PM
    Mark, I just thought of something. You say he could have called my preflop raise with AQ or KQ. But since I had QQ and another Q showed up on the flop, isn't it almost automatic that he does NOT have a Q? Same way as, when a monochrome flop comes up, it's very unlikely that anyone still in the hand has flopped a flush.
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    01-02-2012 , 07:20 PM
    10% calling range is like 66+, KQs, QJs, Axs, AK, and AQ. Since he did not 3bet you I do not see him having KK or AA. So a raise on the flop looks like sets, pairs and flush draw, 2 pair, and flush. I think versus his raising range on the flop, you are a head so you can get it in on the flop.
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    01-02-2012 , 08:59 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gritgar
    Mark, I just thought of something. You say he could have called my preflop raise with AQ or KQ. But since I had QQ and another Q showed up on the flop, isn't it almost automatic that he does NOT have a Q? Same way as, when a monochrome flop comes up, it's very unlikely that anyone still in the hand has flopped a flush.
    Yeah, it reduces the chance that they would have those hands by a lot. It's still possible though and you need to think of all possible hands that villain would be able to play this way this.

    It's good that you think about those things btw.
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    01-03-2012 , 03:42 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MaRkieMarK
    It's good that you think about those things btw.

    I thought of it at the time I was playing the hand, but it slipped my mind over the course of the hand analysis discussion here. Your comments brought it to the surface.

    In general I'm not afraid of paired flops or monochrome flops because of how rarely they benefit my opponents.
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    01-03-2012 , 04:15 PM
    nice hand~
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