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02-25-2012 , 06:53 PM

kevsaled3e

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Firstly, Hello everyone, first post since taking an 18 month break. Starting from the bottom again and building my roll after playing 25nl for a long while.

So, Villain SB shove is their second hand on the table so have zero stats on them. Second villain who calls the shove is a 52/2 passive fish.

I'm very happy to fold here as a 3bet shove at 2nl generally means a monster (unless we have history with villain) or am I just being too much of a nit?

What do YOU lot think?

Thanks,

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11991242

BB: $0.78 (39 bb)
MP1: $1.46 (73 bb)
MP2: $0.98 (49 bb)
MP3: $2.14 (107 bb)
CO: $0.64 (32 bb)
Hero (BTN): $2.24 (112 bb)
SB: $1.98 (99 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q

MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, MP3 calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, SB raises to $1.98 and is all-in, BB folds, MP2 calls $0.96 and is all-in, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.10) 9

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($2.10) 3

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($2.10) J

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

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02-25-2012 , 06:57 PM

Paul D

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Like you said.. it's about history with people. Don't feel bad if you folded the eventual winner.

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02-25-2012 , 07:00 PM

SA16

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raise bigger pre, call now

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02-25-2012 , 07:04 PM

Paul D

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Originally Posted by SA16

raise bigger pre, call now

What would you have raised it to? 16c-20c?

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02-25-2012 , 07:08 PM

SA16

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My default is essentially 3x+1bb per limper. Obviously I change this around somewhat depending on position, who the limper is, stack sizes etc... but it's a good baseline. I would probably go 14c here.

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02-25-2012 , 11:52 PM

whiterice197

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at 2NL I really think 4x +1BB is the way to go, as straight forward poker will win at a good clip. I've been rebuilding from 5NL and am at 10NL now, and noticed a decent increase in my winrate when I switched from 3x+1BB

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02-25-2012 , 11:55 PM

whiterice197

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As played, I would call as the fish isn't limited to hands that crush you, as well as the sb making a big overbet like that screams AK a decent % of teh time

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02-26-2012 , 07:57 AM

baohoa

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SB line with monsters would be lol, caller is 50bbs who might call with any Ax and PP. call imo

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02-26-2012 , 08:18 AM

therightdeal

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Snap call.

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02-26-2012 , 08:45 AM

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Samin8

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I usually call this all ins. Most of the times these all in A2+ K9+ JT+ 22+ + any other "nice card". (this range is only my assumption I played almost 15K hand in NL2 on Pokerstars and this was my experience) limp all in call is also a wide range I think especially if villain in MP ahs same assumtion as mine.

So I think I call it.

I also bettin 4x + 1BB/limp. And if I see a guy 60+/10- I bet more for his limp.

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02-26-2012 , 09:27 AM

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nismo9

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I dont mind stacking off with QQ in most situations at 2nl

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02-26-2012 , 02:43 PM

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Chacarron91

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5x + 1BB/limper TT/JJ/aq
6x + 1BB/ limper QQ/AK
8x + 1BB/limper KK/AA

Cap it off at 20c - 22c

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