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2NL overvalue 1 pair, play too loose? 2NL overvalue 1 pair, play too loose?

02-23-2009 , 08:42 PM
new to forum, so sorry if the hands format is wrong.
2c holdem on FTP
VPIP for 300 hands is 38%(PFR of 25%), I tend to play a lot of connectors though (rather than hands like K 9 etc..)
I thought i was playing closer to 25% hands,
and am i correct that a VPIP of <20% is probably better (esp. at such low stakes?)

Anyways, here's a few one pair hands(-$9 playing one pair hands caught my attention), tell me what you think.

Tptk vs solid opponent, I assumed he either had a set or a weaker jack(I didn't think of overpair o.o, but he would have likely reraised preflop) .
Full Tilt Poker Game #10806174535: Table Oakbury (deep) - $0.01/$0.02 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:09:16 ET - 2009/02/23
Seat 1: remedys082 ($1.96)
Seat 2: jeanlouisborloo ($4.14)
Seat 4: _The_Sleep3rs_ ($1.54)
Seat 5: optimuz111 ($0.78)
Seat 6: Lolostone ($1.80)
Seat 7: Neutrona ($4.92)
Seat 8: FLYINGCOW55 ($4.47)
Seat 9: tarnishme ($3.02)
Lolostone posts the small blind of $0.01
Neutrona posts the big blind of $0.02
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to remedys082 [Jc Ad]
FLYINGCOW55 folds
tarnishme calls $0.02
remedys082 raises to $0.08
jeanlouisborloo calls $0.08
_The_Sleep3rs_ folds
optimuz111 folds
Lolostone folds
Neutrona folds
tarnishme calls $0.06
*** FLOP *** [5c Jd 8d]
tarnishme checks
remedys082 bets $0.15
jeanlouisborloo raises to $0.40
tarnishme folds
I commited to going all in, but decided he would be more likely to go all in on turn with a weaker top pair.
remedys082 calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [5c Jd 8d] [4c]
remedys082 checks
jeanlouisborloo bets $0.76
remedys082 raises to $1.48, and is all in

Somewhat loose opponent, and since he is shortstacked I decided the top pair was good enough to call him down.

Full Tilt Poker Game #10805812229: Table Doig (deep) - $0.01/$0.02 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:47:21 ET - 2009/02/23
Seat 1: YouAreForgiven ($2), is sitting out
Seat 2: luupsIII ($3.96)
Seat 3: kalin21 ($1.02)
Seat 4: jeanlouisborloo ($3.97)
Seat 6: remedys082 ($3.01)
Seat 7: eots777 ($8.72)
Seat 9: Neutrona ($4.06)
luupsIII posts the small blind of $0.01
kalin21 posts the big blind of $0.02
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to remedys082 [Td Js]
YouAreForgiven stands up
jeanlouisborloo folds
remedys082 raises to $0.07
eots777 folds
Neutrona folds
janiahun sits down
luupsIII folds
kalin21 calls $0.05
janiahun stands up
*** FLOP *** [7d 6d Jc]
kalin21 bets $0.20
remedys082 has 15 seconds left to act
(I think i was doing the same thing as in the above hand)
remedys082 calls $0.20
*** TURN *** [7d 6d Jc] [9s]
kalin21 bets $0.75, and is all in
remedys082 calls


Top pair + draw, fold river?
Full Tilt Poker Game #10805225754: Table Wagon (deep) - $0.01/$0.02 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:11:47 ET - 2009/02/23
Seat 1: remedys082 ($2.01)
Seat 2: Neutrona ($4.13)
Seat 3: steburnst ($2.48)
Seat 4: FLYINGCOW55 ($4)
Seat 5: whatevaah ($0.43)
Seat 6: nwahs111 ($1.71)
Seat 7: eots777 ($7.45)
Seat 8: _The_Sleep3rs_ ($0.83)
Seat 9: chilliboy1 ($6.30)
steburnst posts the small blind of $0.01
FLYINGCOW55 posts the big blind of $0.02
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to remedys082 [Jd Qs]
whatevaah folds
nwahs111 folds
eots777 folds
_The_Sleep3rs_ has 15 seconds left to act
_The_Sleep3rs_ folds
chilliboy1 calls $0.02
remedys082 calls $0.02
Neutrona folds
steburnst calls $0.01
FLYINGCOW55 checks
*** FLOP *** [Ts 9h Qh]
steburnst bets $0.06
FLYINGCOW55 folds
chilliboy1 folds
remedys082 raises to $0.18
steburnst calls $0.12
*** TURN *** [Ts 9h Qh] [6c]
steburnst bets $0.20
remedys082 calls $0.20
*** RIVER *** [Ts 9h Qh 6c] [2c]
steburnst bets $0.30
remedys082 calls $0.30
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02-23-2009 , 08:58 PM
and yeah, i probly should have read sticky. i'll make sure to convert hands next time etc.
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02-23-2009 , 09:34 PM
play tighter , and the hands look ok for that level imo
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02-23-2009 , 11:05 PM
haha funny to read a hand I've just played.
You know, against a decent player I never stack off with KJ here (but I guess given the overall tendancies of the rest of the table, it's a ev+++ against unknown).
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02-24-2009 , 07:59 AM
haha whats up Borloo.
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02-24-2009 , 08:33 AM
I do not know the tables at FT, but judging from Stars it's not a mistake stacking off with top pair against the typical NL2 villain. However, I would certainly play a lot tighter preflop. Since people in general do not pay attention you can get away with playing premium hands only (and punish limpers in late position), so if you hit your pair it's TPTK or an overpair.

Is it really -$9 with one pair hands in only 300 hands?? If yes, then the long run is your friend.
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02-24-2009 , 08:59 AM
Cangurino I was villain, all I said was that I was amongst the few at 2nl at FT who would almost never stack off with KJ here against decent player.
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02-24-2009 , 09:03 AM
I understood that... my post was intended as an answer to the original question.
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02-24-2009 , 03:50 PM
hey JL, would you have stacked off with KJ against me (lol, did you consider me a decent player)?

Last edited by remedys; 02-24-2009 at 03:51 PM. Reason: and yeah, i've definately been running awful.
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