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08-19-2010 , 03:08 AM

Alexander Young

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Not using a HUD right now, so no stats, but no real history and no showdowns to speak of yet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Button ($0.86)
Villain (SB) ($1.23)
Hero (BB) ($2.29)
UTG ($0.98)
MP ($0.62)
CO ($2.98)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, 9

UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, Button calls $0.02, Villain calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.08) A

, 9

, J

(4 players)
Villain bets $0.08, Hero raises to $0.24, 2 folds, Villain raises to $1.21 (All-In), Hero?

Insta-fold after he re-raises me on flop?

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08-19-2010 , 03:46 AM

whufc_booker

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Call. He could be making this play with literally any ace. You are only behind to AA/JJ/99 which all raise PF (maybe barring 99) and AJ/A9. He could have the latter but I'd still ship it vs. his range.

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08-19-2010 , 03:51 AM

Leroy_Jenkins45

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I would also call .He may also take this line with an oesd as well .

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08-19-2010 , 05:27 AM

snowboarder3282

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Snap call, if he wins consider it a beat.

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08-19-2010 , 05:44 AM

Bigheadarch1

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Sna

so fast I cudnt even finish the words

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08-19-2010 , 05:46 AM

cthrilla

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definitely calling this down, not many limped hands are beating you here.

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08-19-2010 , 05:51 AM

Kelarm

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His line doesn't really even make sense, what's worth shipping that flop with that you limped pre-flop? None of the sets and probably not AJ either. He probably has a weak ace and just sucks. Easy call and hope he doesn't have A9 (or J9 I suppose) imo. 99 is possible, some fish don't like raising non-paint pocket pairs.

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08-19-2010 , 06:05 AM

elpsnot

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lol easy snap call........why are we making a easy call a hard one, AJ is the only thing that beats you or set, and especially on A high board, snap call this away..

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08-19-2010 , 06:45 AM

onthefence

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Everyone's said it already, this is an obvious call. But I'll illustrate it just to drive the point home for you because I'm betting you are a visual learner.

Villain's possible range
99 (unlikely)
AJ (unlikely)
A9
J9
AT
A8
A7
A6
A5
A4
A3
A2
QT
T8
K10

In red is the hands you are beating. Of the 3 hands that have you beat 2 are unlikely. Make the call and consider it a gift. If he happens to have AA, JJ, or AJ then consider it a "WTFyougottabekiddingme" moment.

Last edited by onthefence; 08-19-2010 at 06:53 AM.

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08-19-2010 , 06:47 AM

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Allisnice

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i dont think im raising this flop, wold prefer a call.

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08-19-2010 , 07:14 AM

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onthefence

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Originally Posted by Allisnice

i dont think im raising this flop, wold prefer a call.

Why? He clearly is the favorite an overwhelming % of the time, and a raise here at $2NL will be called by all the hands that he is beating

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08-19-2010 , 08:23 AM

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Allisnice

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Originally Posted by onthefence

Why? He clearly is the favorite an overwhelming % of the time, and a raise here at $2NL will be called by all the hands that he is beating

never played 2NL but ure probably right, if ppl will not fold Ax here by default raising is the best play.

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08-20-2010 , 12:15 AM

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Alexander Young

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OK thanks guys, appreciate the help. Only reason I posted is villain had AJ and I didn't know whether to consider it a cooler or not after he pushed.

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08-20-2010 , 01:23 AM

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globetrotter

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Not an instafold at 2nl w/ no reads.

You're getting like 2.5 to 1 so you need to be good roughly 30% of the time.

You're losing to AA, JJ, 99, AJ, A9. We have to discount a a lot of those combos b/c villain would have raised them preflop. Good chance villain is capable of doing this w/ Ax imo, so I call.

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08-20-2010 , 01:25 AM

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globetrotter

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Originally Posted by onthefence

This method could be misleading though...

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08-20-2010 , 01:57 AM

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onthefence

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Originally Posted by globetrotter

This method could be misleading though...

how do you mean?

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08-20-2010 , 02:00 AM

#17

hkf

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Sorry you ran into a set?
Seriously most results orientated forum in the universe

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08-20-2010 , 03:32 AM

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PokerSlut

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Originally Posted by onthefence

how do you mean?

He means the hands you listed do not account for the number of card combinations that can make each hand.

AJ is not as likely as, say, AT because the J is on the board (and in the OP's hand) but the T isn't. There are 6 ways to make AJ but 12 ways to make AT, and there are 16 ways to make QT.

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