Hey Guys,

What do you think about this hand?

What do you think Villain has? What does he represent?
Do you think our hand is strong enough to call given the odds we are getting?
Do you think Villain made a mistake here and what would it be?

Flop and turn are a mess, you should never be in a spot like this

Don't bet flop at this size, and don't donk turn.

thanks for your thoughts. could you explain why?

also what you think of villain here?

Don't wanna c-bet bad hands against multiple opponents OOP with a large sizing.

Donking is mostly going to be bad unless you are an advanced player and have a good reason to. Just check if you are OOP and villain bet on the previous street.

Well, I have good reason to. My thinking is: if you are Villain and don't have a King vs. such a bet, what are you gonna do? Mostly fold, right? Yes, I am a beginner but I think betting like this in this spot will make 'em fold more often than not. And IF they call here, their cards are super face-up

Villain raised on the flop. He also raised on the turn. What makes you think that one pair is going to beat him on the river?

I agree with the previous comments about not c-betting this time. You're OOP vs 2 players. Although it's a pretty good flop for your range in general (you tend to have a decent amount of fold equity on Kxx flops), the c-bet isn't going work often enough multiway for you to maximize EV by betting with low equity hands.
My general rule of thumb for multiway pots OOP is to only bet TPTK+ and frontdoor draws (OESDs, FDs). You can happily check-fold all the weaker stuff.
Your actual hand would benefit from a free turn card (as you can turn some combo draws), but you never get that free card by betting, and you can also get raised, which is a disaster. The last thing you want to do is play a bloated pot OOP with ace high.

Thanks for your thoughts Arty.
Guess you are right about the c-bet on the the flop (even tho I actually have position on 1 of the 2 players).
I ended up calling the river because as soon as he bet the river his line made no sense. The only hand I would have given him there would have been AK* and I figured he probably would have 3bet preflop. *I didn't give him 22 or 44 here because a set would never raise on a rainbow flop, or very, very rarely at least.
So I called and villain showed up with 10 9 offsuit.

Fold flop... check turn and fold river. You got pre-flop right.
Glad he had T9o and you won though.

Hmm...a perspective for you. I'll flat small pp against pfr, to do basically what he just did. Except I personally don't usually min raise. Unless of course I think it's going to be the best route to extract value. Especially if I think you'll marry your top pair. In the micro world, I call that my atm.

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