Hi, first time poster. I wasnt sure where to start so I thought this place was as good as any.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 489062
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BB: $5.00
UTG: $5.07
MP: $6.25
Hero (CO): $4.18
BTN: $4.69
SB: $9.67

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with A A
UTG calls $0.02, MP raises to $0.08, Hero raises to $0.20, 4 folds, MP raises to $0.48, Hero raises to $0.76, MP calls $0.28

Flop: ($1.57) Q J T (2 players)
MP bets $5.49 all in, Hero calls $3.42 all in

Turn: ($8.41) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($8.41) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)


This was a pretty straightforward hand so i thought i'd start here. Also, i cant help but wonder if i made the right call here. I was so upset after I lost that I forgot to save villain's stats, vpip etc. Any comments would be appreciated! (or just say hi)

3bet more, 5bet more. fold flop. don't give away results in title or post.

I usually do 3x their open raise size, unless it is min raise, then I will will raise to 9x the BB. So here, I like raising to .24, and I know it is different b/c you are over 200 bb deep, and your raises prior to that were smaller than standard, but at 100bb deep with normal raise sizes, the 5 bet is always a shove.

I think that a lot of villains at 2NL will call a shove of any size with AK, QQ, and maybe worse so just shove when you get 4 bet.

As played, fold flop.

Welcome to the forums.

So with that flop texture i should instantly be afraid? I thought he might have KK
or Ax but i wasnt really expecting that AK.

Btw, thanks for the welcome

AK,KK, KQ, KQ, QJ, QQ, JJ, K10, KJ, JT, TT all these hands have you in a lot of trouble and are the majority of villains range.

Welcome.

You really think he would shove that flop with A high?

The problem is the only hand you beat is KK you lose to everything else in a somewhat reasonable range TT,JJ,QQ,AK.

As others have said your preflop raising is way to small as well.

3 bet more if they 4 bet you just shove it in.

So here should i have raised it 3x his bet like johnnytothec said? maybe higher? should i also have shoved on the 5th bet?

those who are recommending a shove here are so used to playing 100bb deep that they're on complete autopilot. 250bb deep like these early stars tables the shove should be the 6bet not the 5bet imo.

I see. So I assume that this is true since with 250bb your stack is not in danger by the 5th bet whereas it is with 100bb.

When you have AA your stack is never in danger preflop get the most money in as fast as you can you have the nuts at that point.

At 2 NL once I am 4 bet and I have AA all my money is going in i really dont care how deep we are. I get your point but its 2 NL. Not 50 or 100NL.

OP here is some stuff to start reading in your free time to work on your game.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...micros-430637/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...ntents-397190/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...thread-340018/

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...=2089249&page=

That keep you busy for awhile if you run out of stuff let me know i get you some more .

Good luck and welcome.

wow thanks =D thats really helpful

ok I see your point as well and I can't necessarily disagree with it. However I think playing those low limits should be about developing good habits and understanding the why of the basics not just the what.

Too many times I see a player make a suggestion on these forums with their entire justification being 'its 2nl' and this to me not only fails to educate the OP but endorses sloppy play.

Ok so a 5bet shove might be fine deep at 2nl and you can even say that. But an explanation like 'at such low limits players biggest weaknesses are that they are calling so much so even though a 5bet shove is vastly overbetting compared to the previous raise, it won't fold out nearly as many players as it should (and would do at higher levels).

OP: for a hand like aces its not so much about protection your stack preflop as it's about extracting maximum value from weaker hands. You still want to get it allin preflop as much as possible but you don't want to chase away money they'd otherwise put in. a 5bet shove here would be (as played) 8x the previous raise which to a thinking player who thinks you're half decent screams 'I'm over eager to get it in so I probably have Aces or Kings at worst' and often folds out a hand like KK which you want putting its money in the pot because you are such a vast favorite over it.

<-----shoves pre. The flop has been covered pretty thoroughly, and it's in the "it's only a pair" file. Villian doesn't shove here w/o at least 2 pr, imo, unless it's exactly KK, but I digress.

If you push pre, and V folds, you make 24BB, which isn't too shabby at all for AA. If V calls, you're an insanely huge favorite in the hand and can go to bed comfortably tonight knowing that, regardless of the outcome.

Your welcome. Let me know if i can be of any help to you.

Also, go through the FAQ's if you have not already they will most likely answer alot of the basic questions you have.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...ncement37.html

grunch. raise FAR! more pre, **** this min raise ****, you has the nuts and people are signaling they want to play for stacks, you should be EXTREMELY happy to oblige them. make larger raises pre and the hand plays itself

3bet more, to around 26c

5bet more, to around $1.30-$1.40 or just shove, if he's 4betting he's most likely calling, people rarely 4bet lighter than queens at $2nl.

As played fold to the shove, his range is pretty much TT-QQ and AK because he most likely gets it in with KK preflop.

Thanks so much you've been VERY helpful. I will definitely let you know if I have any more questions. I've been trying to start posting on the microlimit hands with whatever limited knowledge I have. Thanks again.

Yeah try to reply to as many hands as you have time to. If you are wrong you are wrong no big deal its the best way to learn. After awhile you will see your answers will get closer and closer to what guys that have been around here for awhile are saying. Good luck.

Those should keep him busy for 6 months or so.

Yeah its alot of stuff i dont even think I have read like half of it yet.

lol yeah rofl. I read the shorter ones first. The rest...should take me about forever or so

Grunch

3 bet to $0.24ish
At 2nl I shove this pre after the 4bet regardless of stack size. You are getting called by inferior hands often enough that it doesn't make sense not to stack off pre assuming villain is unknown since players are this level make so many mistakes. If he was a nit or something I don't mind the 5 bet non shove since you are deep but i would have sized it differently.

FLOP
I fold flop after he shoves. You are not ahead of much since that flop smacks his range and you don't have odds to stack off. Remember that his range narrows after the 4 bet so what do you put him on?

Don't know what has been said so far but in the future use a hand convertor, provide more information (i.e. suit of flop cards), villain reads, table image, PT stats etc. Makes the information you'll get in return better. Oh and don't include the results in the title :P.

GL OP