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Originally Posted by richbrown360
The AJo hand about 7:30. You 3 bet an iso from a tightish player. I'm not sure I like that play. don't you think that AJ might be ok to strong for bluff and weak for value? and you can call expecting the limper to call as well. I dunno I'm unsure about calling as well but it may be viable option if you think the reggy player does iso wide enough. I think you might get into some weird spots post flop if the original raiser calls the 3bet.
Good points here. My reason for 3betting there is basically that I think that I suck playing this hand OOP multiway. If I hit and BTN cbets and I just call and limper folds I am already going to be looking at a ~$8 pot on the turn. I wouldn't really be comfortable c/r in a lot of spots there with the limper left to act. So I am actually treating AJo as ATC here and make it just a pure bluff the same way as the T5o hand I 3bet him with a little later on. For myself, this is 3bet or fold against this type of player. I would be much more comfortable calling for value against a 30/10 in that spot.
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Originally Posted by dumdidum
AKo on table 1 at 10:20: would you 3bet shove an overpair here? What is the virtue of trying to take this away later instead (crai on the turn)? We make more if he's bluffing (and this guy is bluffing here a lot). If there was no FD, I'd really like a crai on the turn better. As the board actually is, I'm not so sure. Any comments?
I agree that a CRAI on the turn is better if the FD isn't there and that is probably the line I would take a little more often (especially if I did have an overpair) - but I find fold equity also gets reduced a lot when the pot gets larger and we get closer to showdown, and he may be more willing to stack off with 88-TT or whatever he has (which is why I would do that with an overpair) if he makes a second larger bet on the turn. Plus I'm almost never going to have Jx there. So I think taking this line to maximize fold equity for for the cheapest amount possible is good too.
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Originally Posted by zyrrth
66 hand is spew iyam
Agreed. If stacks had stayed a little deeper I think this line would have been better. I didn't really notice I had reduced stacks too much on the turn to make a decent river bluff at the time. But I am also positive I am only winning that hand by making him fold. EP ranges are heavily skewed towards 1 pair hands so that was my reasoning for getting so aggro there and I was really surprised that he continued through the turn even though the FD got there plus I could have Tx. idk maybe he had A
and continued with that. Just calling the turn there and checking the river to me made me positive this was 1 pair. But you're right, this will probably not work often enough after thinking about it, although it may be close - can't recall if it was 4:1 or 3:1 - I'm not at home right now. On the river I was thinking this is 99, JJ, KK+