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09-03-2011 , 06:16 PM
Villain is 31/23/afq 46 over 111 hands.





Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1431457
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Hero (MP): $25.00
CO: $25.73
BTN: $25.00
SB: $26.17
BB: $60.41
UTG: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with Q K
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) T T 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($7.60) Q (2 players)
BB bets $5.25, Hero calls $5.25

River: ($18.10) T (2 players)
BB bets $51.41 all in
25NL: Is this a snapcall ? Quote
09-03-2011 , 06:44 PM
Yeah, pretty much.
If you were deeper it becomes a fold at some point in stack-sizes.
This way you gotta snap it off getting better than 2/1.
Villain only has to bluff-jam missed draws or whatever even little less than 30% of the time which I believe is perfectly true with someone having these aggroish stats and also might jam the same hand some.

Last edited by |)r. W4ts0n; 09-03-2011 at 06:45 PM. Reason: BLubbbB
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09-03-2011 , 06:58 PM
I call because of villains stats even though it's only just over a hundred hands. I think its very likely this guy would play a draw this way. And i would be holding my breath while waiting for the result.
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09-03-2011 , 07:12 PM
Id call jst because were here now with bot much left behind. Id fold flop.
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09-03-2011 , 07:21 PM
Nice flop call
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09-03-2011 , 07:52 PM
what are you doing on the flop?....
what was your plan of action? call flop c/r and then fold turns?
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09-03-2011 , 08:06 PM
wtf is going on, both in this hand, and in this thread

fold the flop, call the river if you want to complain about running bad to people who will nod along with you about this 'sick cooler'
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09-03-2011 , 09:36 PM
u have k high on the flop btw
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09-04-2011 , 12:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1847 in Norway
u have k high on the flop btw
And backdoor boat.
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09-04-2011 , 01:01 AM
I think river is a mandatory call at this point, but I don't know what to think about the flop, he's got a wide range of hands and draws but you still lose to a bluff with Ax
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09-04-2011 , 06:03 AM
I was planning to call the flop /w the intention to get him off the hand in later streets. Hes repping a very narrow range OTF and hes capable of bluffing. I would never call flop and c/f turn. I think I would have called turn and fold river or bet river if checked to.

Ofc I dont always float the flop like that against anyone.


For the record, I folded the river. I didnt see that I have under PSB left, so I thought he was overbetting. Sometimes I just get scared too much and fold these spots without thinking too much. 10 seconds after the hand I already regretted the fold.
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09-04-2011 , 07:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by virukunn
I didnt see that I have under PSB left, so I thought he was overbetting.
see guys, this **** works against fish
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09-04-2011 , 09:47 AM
you gotta have heart bro.
Seriously though calling the raise on the flop is like ****ting on your bankroll.
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09-04-2011 , 10:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by X!!!
see guys, this **** works against fish
lol yeah but the trick is figuring out which fish are pussies and which fish are too macho to fold jack high.
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09-04-2011 , 10:59 AM
Well floating a c/r on a dry flop where Villain reps nothing is certainly not bad with sufficient info.
And I believe and am almost certain that you are overestimating a couple of things:

a) the significance of the information you have
b) your ability to assign ranges
c) your ability to outplay people postflop
d) the likelyhood that Villain c/r the flop with air
e) in case d) is true Villain gives up on subsequent streets/you will have enough room to get folds
f) the level of sickness you need to beat NL25

Just because you've seen durrrr and Ivey pull these sick floats on TV, doesn't mean you can do it and/or should do it.
There's a small chance I am wrong and you had enough reason to take your line but I highly doubt it.
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09-04-2011 , 11:23 AM
Can we start giving warnings/infractions/bans to people who make OP's like this?

I mean, posting a couple of random stats and then not commenting at all about why you bet/called a flop with K-hi is worse than useless.
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09-04-2011 , 03:06 PM
Without more history, I need more outs and/or more info on villain to continue on this flop

You dont have to win every hand
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09-04-2011 , 04:12 PM
If you aren't folding turn and think villain can be bluffing just 3bet flop but realistically just fold flop until you have a solid read.
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09-05-2011 , 07:52 AM
If you had a effective stack that had him covered then i'd be sweating in this situation, but then i realised you only had 100BBs while his AI for $51 is really just a pot sized bet to you, so call.

ofc im presuming you're floating the flop and is perfect once in a while but you cant always play like this.
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