Hi all.

Woke up in BB with JJ, everybody folds to the SB.
Villain shows VP:38 PR:19 AFq:64 on a 21 hands sample which I know is really small to draw conclusions
Hero shows VP:19 PR:15 AFq:67
I was confused by the size of villain's raise.
What is the best line of play here?

Any feedback would be really appreciated. Thanks!

Merge - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $31.09
BTN: $24.57
SB: $19.66
Hero (BB): $30.00
UTG: $26.02
UTG+1: $31.61
MP: $13.37
MP+1: $7.26

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has J J

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $3.75, SB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50, 2 players) 5 A A
SB checks, Hero bets $5.00, SB calls $5.00

Turn: ($17.50, 2 players) 6
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($17.50, 2 players) K
SB bets $10.91 and is all-in, fold

Why do you bet so big in a 3bet pot on the flop...you do realize that he never folds anything better right? And you dont really have to "protect" against KT or 99.

IP i don't mind checking back flop here, we are WA or WB, V is drawing from 2 to 6 outs and our line is consistent with flopped trips. we can get value from worse pairs ott or otr anyway

how about massive value from underpairs? protection from Kx/Qx

Villain only has 80bb...if you want to get value you can easily bet half pot on each street and still get his whole stack...also we dont bet to protect against 3 outs..only hand that we are ahead that has 6 outs is KQ...so you do not wanna scare him away.

if he has Kx/Qx that's 6-8 cards in total we're afraid of, cause we're going to fold much on any K/Q turn/river.
5 into 7 ain't that much

i flat the open pre

I don't 3bet pre.
I bet smaller into a smaller pot on the flop because of it.
I can continue the pressure on the turn because of that.
River, if villain is still in the hand, I fold, not beating much.

if by checking we can induce him to bluff us i prefer checking here given how unlikely it is to be outdrawn. we also pot control ina spot where, again, we are WA or WB.
betting small to get value from worse PP is another option.
also pre is a clear 3bet for value vs. this guy imo

guise we have jacks! JACK JACK OFFSUIT. 3b fo' sho'.

as played call, i think he shows up with Ax and bruffs.

After some recent adjustments I am having a miserable time getting my 3bet strategy preflop into some order.

Could someone give me some pointers as to why 3bet pre here is obvious?

It is something I used to do, but my game isn't as it was.

cause it's 4th best hand in poker?

3betting all day everyday.
Blind v Blind no one gives credit to a 3bet and is probably going to continue with a wide range like 77+; AT+; KJ+

Thank u so much for feedbacks!

It feels the line between 3bet pre and flat call is thin.
Though it kind of changes the entire play post flop.
Anyone could tell me which one of the two lines is best to follow in the long run?
Thanks a bunch again and gl at the tables.

Sorry but the line pre is not very thin cause the guy is playing 40/20 and only has 80bb....getting it in is usually not a mistake....but if you just call pre and let him keep the initiative it kinda blows cause if he is aggressive (which his aggression frequency shows so far) we might end up folding the best hand from time to time and also do not get enough value when we are ahead.

understood thanks Messenjupp.

I definitely 3b pre.. we only have 21 hands on him so probably don't have.a good fold to 3b size. If I don't have a lot of info on a villain, I always assume he calls 3bets too wide. He can call with so many pocket pairs we crush.. we dominate hands like AJ, KJ, and QJ.. there are just so many hands we are ahead of that he would call pre with.. check back flop or if you are gonna cbet, bet half potish.. when you bet on the bigger side, hands that are borderline to call will fold.. now if you make it half pot, 22-TT are more likely to call.. bet sizing too big can be a leak because you are narrowing the villains range to only hands that beat you. I feel like this flop is strange for us.. we are more likely to have an ace in our range than villain, but if we cbet, hands like 22-TT don't always fold.. and that's why you want to cbet this flop.. to take it down right now. If we cbet flop, we don't get the folds we want.. its goin to be annoying when those pairs continue and we check to villain and they bet turn.. they could have an Ax or several pocket pairs.. so I think I would check back and let those pocket pairs bet the turn, that way the pot is smaller (only have to worry about 2 streets instead of 3).. probably call turn, and sometimes call river depending on the card..

Ok so key here is pot control?
I dont scare away smaller hands that will maybe call me all the way until the river for max value and I wont loose a too big of a pot to the few hands that bit me.
Is that correct?
Thanks a lot.

not a spot to pot control when he only has a stack size of a big bet. shove turn and be happy with it