UTG is a fish, MP is a laggish player and SB is a rock with 8/3
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 835569
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BTN: $36.46
SB: $25.00
Hero (BB): $26.90
UTG: $13.73
MP: $33.86
CO: $33.07

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A A
UTG raises to $0.75, MP raises to $2.25, 2 folds, SB raises to $7.10, Hero raises to $26.90 all in

5bet shoving in that spot is just saying I have AA/KK.
Should I ever think of not shipping or just hope that one of the 3 players levels themselves into calling.

UTG is a fish who may call off light and SB never has anything less than KK here. standard shove to me

I think you have to shove here because you don't exactly want people calling behind you with suited connnected cards etc..

But you keep in AK KK and maybe QQ

Just no

depends if the fish would call. if they will call i think i may flat because hey free money and i could still get Ks to comit on any non Axx board /dry . idk but may be thats resault orientated.

5b shove is standard. the villain who 4b should never fold unless he 4b light

5bet shove over 3 different raisers pretty much says AA.
But you've got to think someone is calling a lot of the time. If they fold, so be it. I think you should be shoving 100% of the time.

Just call. Why would you raise the fish out of the pot? I dont really see any reason to 5bet shove other then hoping to cooler someone...

Tricky bob is tricky. Now, why would you scream AA and then expect someone to call with less?

because the SB cold 4 bet and is 8/3. unless small sample size this is KK nearly every time and i dont expect 25nl players to be good enough to fold KK pf. plus the fish could very well call off light anyway

Shove 100%. Take the 40bb if all fold. I don't want to flat and have 1 other fish along with SB as the AA will lose more often in the multiway flop. Tried reasoning the flat from a number of angles and can't come up with anything else that works.

You can flat alot and just ship any flop. If he thinks you're a competent player, he can fold out everything that isn't kings or aces. And even if it was kings, I think he could fold it. If you flat here though, I would think that it kind of confuses him.

yeah, but we are already going to cooler the sb, chances are that no ace is going to fall (nor a king if he has kings) so its hard to see action killed on flops. We can also make the lagtard or the fish come over the top.

I really want the fish in the pot so I can get it in against him AND the nit when the flop comes J or Q high (which hits alot of fish's range when he calls)

I also think a 8/3 is ''good enough'' to fold KK here. But I guess it must be a really small sample we have on him (50 hands maybe?) because Ive never saw anyone play 8/3 at 25nl over 200+ hands. So its not even sure he has KK.

I feel that shoving is more minimizing risk than maximizing value.

If he is 8/3 and has KK, he should fold. We are never ever putting a single penny in after his cold 4 bet with less than KK. I think I fold KK there to a 8/3 cold 4 bet so my range for continuing is purely AA.

Maybe OP will continue with KK, but I really doubt he does with QQ or AK, meaning that the 8/3 should 4b/f KK there. OBV he never is.

The money v SB is going in on any flop. Whatever we do, we (and the SB) look insane strong. There is a chance that the others get involved a bit lighter if we just flat, so I would prob flat. No big difference though.