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02-15-2009 , 12:40 AM

McAvoy

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Should I have shoved PF after
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 39131
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+2: $12.40
MP1: $16.75
MP2: $3.00
CO: $23.15
Hero (BTN): $25.10
SB: $3.50
BB: $3.85
UTG: $21.50
UTG+1: $14.75

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with J

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, UTG+2 raises to $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BB calls $2.75, 1 fold, UTG+2 raises to $5.50, 2 folds, Hero

Should I just jam the pot here?

calls $2.50, BB calls $0.85 all in

Flop: ($16.20) Q

(3 players - 1 is all in)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $7, UTG+2 folds

Turn: ($16.20) 9

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($16.20) 5

(2 players - 1 is all in)

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02-15-2009 , 12:41 AM

MattR

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What are his stats?

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02-15-2009 , 12:45 AM

McAvoy

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Pretty fishy but its my first orbit so kinda irrelevant.

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02-15-2009 , 12:53 AM

MattR

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Against an unknown this is a tough spot. I would just ship it in, but I'm nuts like that. I think you played it fine though to be honest.

Stats are the biggest determiner for hands like this.

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02-15-2009 , 02:38 AM

Providence

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Originally Posted by McAvoy

Pretty fishy but its my first orbit so kinda irrelevant.

Pretty fishy in a calling station way, or pretty fishy in an aggrodonk kind of way? There's a big difference between those two kinds of bad players. And it will determine the right strategy against him.

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02-15-2009 , 03:56 AM

McAvoy

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Originally Posted by Providence

Its the first orbit so I can't differentiate at this point. It could very well be a TAG or ROCK on a heater.

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02-15-2009 , 04:37 AM

mao

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lets think about this.

did you miss value ?

I would say no.

because even if he called you with AK and you held up, you were only around 55%.

he is definitely calling you with KK,AA and you're 20% there.

what is your fold eq vs a 4bet ?

so no. I do not think there is any value in shoving other than stacking yourself off.

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02-15-2009 , 12:30 PM

McAvoy

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Thx mao,

As played, should I fold to any AK flop?

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