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01-03-2010 , 04:27 PM

Yarin

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 43

villain 27/12 34 hands no reads

How should I play turn? check/raise, check/call, lead? and why?

rest of the hand will follow..

thanks in advance!

Party Poker $25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $18.44
MP: $63.80
CO: $7.18
BTN: $25.00
SB: $14.75
Hero (BB): $26.50

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 4

UTG calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.60) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, UTG raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.60) 4

(2 players)

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01-03-2010 , 04:46 PM

BlackDespair

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c/r

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01-03-2010 , 05:07 PM

Yarin

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Why is that the best play?

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01-03-2010 , 05:15 PM

martin9_90

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I call down

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01-03-2010 , 05:27 PM

smokingrobot

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Originally Posted by Yarin

Why is that the best play?

cuz it looks like a bluff/drawing hand and you have a monster? and are only behind sets here.

unlikely 68 is in villains UTG limp ra nge even. maybe 68s but i still say very unlikely.

same for 63

Last edited by smokingrobot; 01-03-2010 at 05:33 PM.

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01-03-2010 , 05:44 PM

kimdoocheol

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Originally Posted by smokingrobot

cuz it looks like a bluff/drawing hand and you have a monster? and are only behind sets here.

unlikely 68 is in villains UTG limp ra nge even. maybe 68s but i still say very unlikely.

same for 63

yeah, could be an overpair too if table has been raising a lot and UTG was trying to get tricky.

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01-03-2010 , 05:48 PM

curly86

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Id fold to flop c/r with no reads

c/c turn and river

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01-03-2010 , 05:50 PM

nanonoko

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I think it's weird to already know if you're going to c/c or c/r when he didn't even act yet on the turn. You got to remember that bet sizing changes things too. what if min bet the turn, are you going to just c/c?

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01-03-2010 , 05:50 PM

smokingrobot

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and who is in your avatar and where do i get more?

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01-04-2010 , 09:22 AM

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Yarin

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 43

Party Poker $25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $18.44
MP: $63.80
CO: $7.18
BTN: $25.00
SB: $14.75
Hero (BB): $26.50

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 4

UTG calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.60) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, UTG raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.60) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.25, Hero raises to $3.75, UTG raises to $17.19 all in

Clear fold?
I actually really thought he would have a set, but sometimes I hear people say thats a too specific range to put him on..

thoughts?

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01-04-2010 , 10:00 AM

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snijper91

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 17

I dont see many hands you can beat.
you're way behind against any set, as well as higher two pairs.
the check/raise is fine on the turn, but Id fold after the 3bet

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01-04-2010 , 11:26 AM

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curly86

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I dont like c/r turn to fold to a shove. Villain is probably unlikely to flat the c/r

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01-04-2010 , 12:29 PM

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Yarin

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Originally Posted by curly86

I dont like c/r turn to fold to a shove. Villain is probably unlikely to flat the c/r

Exactly what I thought afterwards...
But I still don't really know how I've should've played this hand then...?

check/call turn and river??? ^o)
My 2pair was well disguised and I thought I was ahead. Because I thought he would bet the turn I went for a crai. When he then shoved I put him on a higher 2pair/set, and folded.

Any other more +EV way to play this hand/situation?

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01-04-2010 , 12:33 PM

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Stackajawea

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I don't think the c/r line on the turn is bad at all as you are still getting value from all the times he calls. yea you'll have to lay it down if you get re-raised but you're not really raising for info since he would in fact call your c/r with worse hands more often than re-raise you with better hands therefore allowing your c/r to be for value.

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