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25 NL River decision with weak top pair 25 NL River decision with weak top pair

04-18-2024 , 05:50 PM
I don't think I'm ever good here with V's sizing on turn and honestly maybe it's just a fold there. But as played, any merit to bluffing the river here? I have no club, which isn't ideal, but I do feel like V doesn't have many flushes when he checks the river. I felt the urge to blast here but wondering if I'm just punting. The board is also somewhat scary beyond just the flush for hands like AK or KK/QQ, which I think is a lot of V's range and might fold. I feel like if I make the call on the turn I have to be prepared to bluff a lot of rivers and this 9 of clubs is a pretty good card to do so?

Ignition - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 172.56 BB
BTN: 43 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 98.4 BB
UTG: 72.4 BB
Hero (MP): 146.92 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A 8

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 12 BB, fold, Hero calls 9 BB

Flop: (25 BB, 2 players) A 3 J
SB bets 7.84 BB, Hero calls 7.84 BB

Turn: (40.68 BB, 2 players) T
SB bets 25.52 BB, Hero calls 25.52 BB

River: (91.72 BB, 2 players) 9
SB checks, Hero ???
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04-18-2024 , 06:42 PM
You think he is double barreling OOP with KK/QQ on this board in a 3bet pot? The only part of his range that doesn't smash this board is his PP below TT and we block some of that with the 8.

I would fold this OTT and continue with clubs, QT, QJ, AQ, AK, KJ, KT, KQ, JT, and 2p+. I think I would play my whole continuing range as a call except maybe KQ.

I think we need V to fold a hand like AT or AJ to bet river. I just check back and hope I beat KJ, KT, or A5.

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04-18-2024 , 06:48 PM
Preflop is a pure fold I presume, I would imagine maybe AJs is a mixed 4bet/call, ATs a mixed 4bet/call/fold and everything below almost pure folds. A5s and A4s are a bit better than your hand I would say.

Bluffing with an A seems weird/overbluffing? You beat some give ups.
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04-18-2024 , 06:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by boulgakov
Preflop is a pure fold I presume, I would imagine maybe AJs is a mixed 4bet/call, ATs a mixed 4bet/call/fold and everything below almost pure folds. A5s and A4s are a bit better than your hand I would say.

Bluffing with an A seems weird/overbluffing? You beat some give ups.
I have A8s as bottom of my Ax calling range in this config.

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04-18-2024 , 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by simplelessons
I have A8s as bottom of my Ax calling range in this config.
I just checked GTOw and it seems I was able to regurgitate correctly what I memorised there (50 NL rake solution 12BB 3bet vs 2.5BB open).

Not saying you're wrong and I'm right, but at least I did not invent it out of nowhere (I should have checked prior to my first message anyway)
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04-18-2024 , 07:51 PM
Fold pre. Barely a call irrespective of rake but with it defnitely low to minus EV vs unknown.

Bluff seems okish. But the turn bet is supernaturally strong and I doubt they fold enough Ax so i would just take the SDV. In fact, we're quite heavily blocking his folds OTR
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