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200NL River Set and Overbet... ??? 200NL River Set and Overbet... ???

11-13-2007 , 08:54 PM
Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
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BB: $316.40
UTG: $200
UTG+1: $294.35
MP1: $226
MP2: $249.80
CO: $200
Hero (BTN): $188.35
SB: $208.75

Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, BB calls $5
BB just sat down and I have no hands on him...

Flop: ($15) T J A (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14, BB calls $14

Turn: ($43) 4 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks
At this point I am putting him on an ace... maybe AK?

River: ($43) Q (2 Players)
BB bets $295.40 and is All-In, Hero?
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11-13-2007 , 09:02 PM
Very easy fold IMO. Pot is small and your set is worthless here.
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11-13-2007 , 09:16 PM
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Very easy fold IMO. Pot is small and your set is worthless here.
How does villain have a King here? Most people would reraise preflop to a button raise with AK, so you put him squarly on KJ/KT?
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11-13-2007 , 09:21 PM
I think you get a call from AK in the BB fairly often... I didn't rule it out.
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11-13-2007 , 09:29 PM
i snapfold this.
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11-13-2007 , 09:33 PM
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Very easy fold IMO. Pot is small and your set is worthless here.
How does villain have a King here? Most people would reraise preflop to a button raise
with AK, so you put him squarly on KJ/KT?
Why AK? This is the stealing situation and BB is unknown. He may call any king - KQ, KJ, AK, KT, K9, Kxs and just float flop or slowplaying 2p/straight.

And we have invested only 21$ and I don't want to risk whole stack against unknown 4 straight board. I am sure its straight 90% of the time. And if he bluffing in this way - we will catch him sooner or later while we have better spot.
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11-13-2007 , 09:34 PM
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How does villain have a King here? Most people would reraise preflop to a button raise with AK, so you put him squarly on KJ/KT?
Bro are you kidding me? What reason have we given for Villain to believe we can't have a king? He needs to believe we almost never have a King to open-shove this river. He can have KJ, KQ, AK, KTs with a backdoor even. This is an insta-fold. It's not close.
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11-13-2007 , 09:35 PM
I folded the hand... then he claimed to have had A10... didn't show though.
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11-13-2007 , 09:35 PM
He lied.
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11-13-2007 , 09:54 PM
Either he lied, or he's awful. It looks very much like KT/KJ to me. Easy fold.
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11-14-2007 , 12:07 AM
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Bro are you kidding me? What reason have we given for Villain to believe we can't have a king? He needs to believe we almost never have a King to open-shove this river. He can have KJ, KQ, AK, KTs with a backdoor even. This is an insta-fold. It's not close.
I actually don't think I'd call this during play but thinking about it a king makes no sense except for a couple hands and a random float.
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11-14-2007 , 01:13 AM
The road to robusto is unliekly to include any stops at "call massive overshoves with a set on boards that need only 1 high card for a straight."
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11-14-2007 , 01:24 AM
Fold this automatically.
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