So I isolate a regfish. Get 3-bet by a weird, unpredictable reg, who after all only 3-bets <7%. He does weird things and has some tilt issues.
I have no idea what to think about the turn spot, thoughts???
I think in order to call, villain would have to bluff some total air.


2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 34.5 BB (VPIP: 32.72, PFR: 26.54, 3Bet Preflop: 7.46, Hands: 173)
BTN: 138.35 BB (VPIP: 25.27, PFR: 18.84, 3Bet Preflop: 6.54, Hands: 281)
Hero (SB): 101 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 30.81, PFR: 21.42, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 3,253)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1.5 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3 BB) Hero has J K

CO checks, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, BB raises to 13 BB, fold, Hero calls 9 BB

Flop: (27.5 BB, 2 players) 6 A 6
Hero checks, BB bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

Turn: (47.5 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BB bets 18 BB, Hero ???

I think I would tend to call the turn bet and then fold to a decently sized river bet.

My thought is if we don't call this turn, which turn are we calling? Are we only hoping he checks it to us?

After calling turn, if it's checked to us, I think it's important to bet some river cards and not let him go to showdown cheaply (something like a club), especially if you have a read he does weird things.

Raising the turn here seems spewy unless you think he can fold something like AQ-AT, Ax. Since I doubt he's going to 2 barrel with TT-QQ/lower PP often enough.

I think we have plenty of Ax,clubs, and some 6x that we can call, I'd just fold.

Yep

I'd expect his range to be kind of strong here. He has position on you with the fish to act behind so should be completing most of his continuing hands. He has a low 3b too. So would consider folding pre, it can prevent you from getting into messy spots like this one :P

Oh wow, yeah folding pre probably a good idea. Just noticed that CO posted and is lol 34bb deep. Prob defending KQs, and that's like the stone cold bottom of my defending range. Might even fold KQs. CO here is short-stacked and can spaz with any Ax/PP, and BB here should hardly ever be light. Second of all, his 3-bet stat is already super low for 6-max.

i mean CO has pretty normal stats. i would expect him to **** with a 3bet <10% here, so i disagree that BB shouldn't be light, but i do think most people intuitively feel they shouldn't 3bet light here, and considering his overall 3bet % is very low this doesn't seem like a spot where he'd usually get jumpy. seems nitty but i agree with folding pre. given how light i'm advocating defending pre, you wouldn't wanna call flop either.

Note that CO posted 1.5x penalty blinds and checks.
I'm very very wide here, and I would expect reg to notice this tendency as well.
Another reason to call here, was that this reg has his tilt issues and spazzes out occasionally.

So personally if I were him, I would not skip 3-betting 54s 65s 64s type hands. Possibly even more since he has position.

I 'm very likely folding pre depending on how you think this BB player is reacting to your iso. If he isn't widening his range (possibly even constricting) then I would fold pre. Also note that due to the very low stack depth of the CO it's likely a hand he is willing to get it in with. If I don't fold pre then I fold on the flop. If I don't fold pre and I don't fold flop then I fold turn.

Guy is relatively tight and we have worst position. His SQZ here might actually be <7%

Sizing is quite large compared to our stack depth too

But he isn't you. I think this logic is quite bad to get into. We can definitely always think about what "we" would do in his shoes, but we don't want to be applying our thought process to his when we know they are not the same. People at low stakes/micros do this type of thing way to often saying stuff, "well he should be doing x y z so im going to do a b c" often times knowing that even though that's what he should be doing we know he isn't.

Don't apply your thought process/standard actions to other players unless they are warranted based on stats/experience/ or population tendencies.

100% agree, especially the "he isn't you" part. I play quite spewy sometimes, and I have to remember not to for example call 3-barrels too light from non-aggro regs. Crap like "top of my range" and "I would barrel this spot as a bluff" don't matter

You put yourself in this position by floating the flop

I fold pre but I also ISO to 5x pre. This is not a spot guys don't 3b the SB ISO wide.

Lol