yeah i say 2 tough spots but the last one is kinda standard to call just checking it is.

i've posted the hands in the order they happened. i have SS on villain being a low stakes loser. nothing too spectacular. the first hand occured like 3 hands into the match and the 2nd hand was 2 hands after that one where he donked turn and i folded. so he might like this line, i just don't see what i'm reasonably beating vs a random here with the A5??

here's the c/c donk pot line he took 2 hands before. just to add some sort of idea where he's coming from.


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Hero (BTN/SB): t1480 M = 49.33
BB: t1520 M = 50.67

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with T 7
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 4 Q 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80

Turn: (t280) A (2 players)
BB bets t280, Hero folds


here's the hand in question if he's picked up another 6 i can't see why he would play it this way but it's possible. could be doing something weird with Qx?

i feel like he's picked up the FD and we're gonna get valuetowned for that massive pot on river? he could've missed a diamond draw and decided to bluff it but i dno...

call or fold?

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Hero (BTN/SB): t1350 M = 45
BB: t1650 M = 55

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with A 5
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 6 5 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80

Turn: (t280) 6 (2 players)
BB bets t280, Hero calls t280

River: (t840) A (2 players)
BB bets t840, Hero requests TIME


i think this one is a more standard call but looks like we're getting value towned by one of the FH's

call?


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Hero (BTN/SB): t1280 M = 42.67
BB: t1720 M = 57.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) Q 3 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80

Turn: (t280) 2 (2 players)
BB bets t280, Hero calls t280

River: (t840) 2 (2 players)
BB bets t320

he did that in very 3 very different turns, A turn, pairing turn and a brick so i assume is part of his donk overall strategy and dont give him too much credit. Im calling both but im more happy calling the second than the first

I fold one and am happy about it, make the river A before I start timebanking.

Call two, it's weird stuff enough.

3rd is a "snap"call given that's he valuebetting worse hands (you beat almost all Qx hands and pocket pairz) let alone the random bluff he's doing

2nd is weird, i probably call Ax river but not As because there's a bunch of spade hands in his range here

I don't think I call in 2, even on Ax cards. Ax makes it pretty close though.

3rd is def standard call.

checking flop in hand 2 is cool imo, i think i fold river but i think i might fold turn also

hand 3 im thinking about shipping river

always enjoy reading your posts nathan cause there's like a 50% chance you're going to recommend something that seems insane-o unconventional at first and then I'm like hmmm ...

I think you got an opponent who understands that you aren't going to have a strong enough hand most of the time to continue on the turn and river facing big bets.

On hand 2, I think the turn is a raise or fold, he has already done this a couple of times, so his range here is wide, I wouldnt even say its polarized, I think you can start to assume its mostly air. As played I think the river is snap call.

On hand 3, I think you were right to call turn, it lets him keep bluffing, I would also call the river because a raise probably folds out anything you beat. It also gives you the added benefit of seeing hands that villain does this with, and you can get a better idea of whats going in villains mind

I'm still not sure if we can call hand 2, like this is readless remember. At this point all i've seen him do is lead the turn in hand 1.

Nice points made by everyone ITT. Freakg nice observation of the fact he has led 3 very different turns, that's a great point. Also ghetto, i think you're right in saying this villain knows we won't have a hand strong enough to handle these bets often. Both good points.

I called in hand 2 for 840 after almost timing out, villain showed 23o for a busted.....for a dumb bluff. Still not sure if this was a good call but against most villains it could be a fold, i just never give much credit to the c/c donk turn line. Always a semi-bluff or w/e.

i call both

hand 2:
he just did that exact same move (PSB turn lead after flatting flop) a couple of hands before, and you folded. i don't think he would do that again without a made hands (fd) very often, because he knows he's going to get less credit and get played back a lot, especially on such an unconventional move.

also a fd doesn't justify his flop call, i think it's not unlikely he has a good piece of the board. and i would consider folding turn. he gives you 2:1 to call about 22.7% of your stack..., and there's a chance only my fd outs are going to be good, and i don't know if i'm getting payed if i hit. (if he's ahead you need 16 outs to call, without considering implied odds).

if you feel he picked up a spade draw, than calling turn is obviously good. unfortunately he hits it on the river...

hand 3:
oh man, here we go again. (if he always plays this way, i probably should have considered hand 2 differently).
i think river it's a call. we can't call turn and fold to another 2 on the river vs an opponent that keeps playing that way. but having a read on his betsizing could help. (it's true it looks like value town...)

overall, very difficult spots without a read.