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15NL JJ vs whale line check 15NL JJ vs whale line check

04-13-2012 , 08:18 AM
(This is SEK not $)
    Boss, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12550812

    BB: $222.64 (222.6 bb)
    MP: $186.03 (186 bb)
    CO: $185.91 (185.9 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $169.25 (169.3 bb)
    SB: $91 (91 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
    MP calls $1, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $7, 3 folds, CO calls $6

    Flop: ($16.50) 7 6 2 (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets $10, CO raises to $20, Hero calls $10

    Turn: ($56.50) T (2 players)
    CO bets $42.37, Hero folds




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    CO was: 70/9/1.5AF - 34 hands.

    I was: 43/30/4.3AF.


    Flop: he could minraise with 88+ and maybe A7 and some combo draws, so i decided to call.

    turn: easy fold when he bombs it.
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    04-13-2012 , 08:53 AM
    nh
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    04-13-2012 , 11:21 AM
    I really struggle in these spots because its so hard to fold the flop when he min raises but then I find myself wanting to fold almost every turn, yeah 89 and 1010 do get there i suppose.
    Would you have called a smaller bet ott?
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    04-13-2012 , 11:26 AM
    Probably just folding otf vs this guy, especially if we intend to fold this turn.
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    04-13-2012 , 11:37 AM
    i like your preflop raise size, the flop bet could be a little bigger around 12.

    minraises are usually very nutted hands. he doesnt seem very agressive over these 34 hands so a fold on the flop would not be that bad (again: im scared of minraises).

    calling him on the flop means he will barrel the turn again which means he is AI or commited
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    04-13-2012 , 05:13 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PlayLikeRussian
    I really struggle in these spots because its so hard to fold the flop when he min raises but then I find myself wanting to fold almost every turn, yeah 89 and 1010 do get there i suppose.
    Would you have called a smaller bet ott?
    I hate these spots aswell, but the thing is that ive seen villians at 15NL take this exact line OTF with TPGK hands like K7, A7, and ott they often check back all of the sudden.

    If he bet smaller, maybe half to 1/3 pot i would probably be calling one more time. As he could have 88-99 going for thin value.

    Last edited by VIVEK15; 04-13-2012 at 05:19 PM.
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    04-14-2012 , 06:07 AM
    Its not a nice situation to be in, but you really gotta either be 3betting or folding the flop. The min raise sort of suggests hes hit his set, but a 3bet here would find out. I do like the big raise preflop tho to scare away all the limpers/take down a nice pot.
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    04-14-2012 , 06:10 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by maverickf1
    Its not a nice situation to be in, but you really gotta either be 3betting or folding the flop. The min raise sort of suggests hes hit his set, but a 3bet here would find out. I do like the big raise preflop tho to scare away all the limpers/take down a nice pot.
    Why would you want to scare away fish when you have a nice hand?
    And don't 3bet the flop to find out where you are at.
    This is played fine
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    04-14-2012 , 06:14 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by maverickf1
    Its not a nice situation to be in, but you really gotta either be 3betting or folding the flop. The min raise sort of suggests hes hit his set, but a 3bet here would find out. I do like the big raise preflop tho to scare away all the limpers/take down a nice pot.
    This is not intended to be a malicious post by me, but your thinking is so seriously flawed/backwards that I'd suggest that you read up on A LOT more of the available poker theory before giving advice in threads.

    I think the hand was played fine
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    04-14-2012 , 08:16 PM
    Ok cool thanks guys.
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