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01-09-2013 , 05:00 PM

BH2

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 662

I Thought this kind of spot is a standard shove but I was looking through my database and I seem to be losing money this these kind of spots?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15314591

BTN: $13.37 (133.7 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.80 (108 bb)
BB: $10.26 (102.6 bb)
MP: $12.99 (129.9 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

2 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, BB folds, BTN calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.90) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $1, BTN raises to $2.90, Hero raises to $9.90 and is all-in, BTN calls $7

Turn: ($21.70) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($21.70) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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It seem to sick to fold because they are repping such a small value range but if the bluff range is 0% then its still a huge mistake.

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01-09-2013 , 05:04 PM

writerontilt

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 95

Depends very much on the reads you have on him. What are the stats you have on the villain?

Flop raise from a nit is often a set. Flop raise from a LAG, I would probably get it in.

But I am also interested what other people have to say on this.

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01-09-2013 , 05:10 PM

fib3

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Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 214

def make the 3bet bigger when OOP - $1.10+ should be fine. i mean this is one of those spots where if he has a set its just a cooler. depending on how good/bad he is he can have AK too, AQ/AJ some % of the time and he can rarely also be spazzing. getting it in here is pretty standard imo and its fine, although you could also flat and get it in on a later street just in case he is spazzing or has a worse A than you. he might occasionally fold AJ to a shove but hes getting it in ott if you flat for sure. not a big deal though, clearly you ran into a cooler.

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01-09-2013 , 05:11 PM

BH2

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 662

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Originally Posted by writerontilt

His stats were 28/27/5 over 41 hands, but I meant it as more of a general spot.

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01-09-2013 , 05:14 PM

BH2

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 662

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Originally Posted by fib3

I really don't think someone is raising AJ/AQ here? and I think you only run in somebody spazzing out a very small % of the time and when you factor in the fact he can have any 2pair here, it really could be a fold? it just feels so dirty.

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01-09-2013 , 05:16 PM

fib3

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im just laying out all the possibilities of hands you may encounter. yes its not likely but it does happen. vs a set it doesnt matter what you do but vs other hands it can. i think folding here is just out of the question unless hes a huge nit and you didnt mention anything of that sort.

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01-09-2013 , 05:23 PM

micromachine999

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 12

Yeah depends what sort of villain you're up against. Villain shouldn't reeeeeally be setmining preflop there but then again he is IP and it depends how he perceives you.

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01-09-2013 , 06:57 PM

second4

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Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 38

if you know that villian seem to have 2pair+ often,

why shove here? just fold if you have strong reason to it.

i'm folding here very rarely..

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01-09-2013 , 07:08 PM

Miss played

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If he has A8 just berate him in the chat box

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01-09-2013 , 08:17 PM

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OMGDaGagaLady

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 798

3bet needs to be bigger. He's getting good odds to set-mine. I don't think he raises a worse Ace here pretty much ever and the board is pretty dry. I don't think folding this is outta the question like some people have made it out to be. If you're gonna proceed with the hand tho, I think it's better to flat his flop raise as shoving will fold all his bluffs.

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01-09-2013 , 10:19 PM

#11

BornToRun

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Shoving is pretty bad, just call.

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01-09-2013 , 10:29 PM

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ChrisGil

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Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 736

I don't like the shove. I can't remember the last time I ever shoved here and a worse hand actually called. I don't think you can fold either though. Call and hate life on the turn most likely.

Also, you should definitely consider the villain when you reevaluate the turn. A guy with these stats so far is very capable of a wide range of hands that beat you, a bluff-raise every now and then, and perhaps the occasional semi bluff with JT. Against a ****** you can just call or sometimes shove. Against a nit or someone who has shown alot of skill in the past you can consider a fold on the flop, but this should be very rare.

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01-10-2013 , 12:23 PM

#13

chiego

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prob call more than jam

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01-10-2013 , 12:33 PM

#14

The Hit

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2 leaks for sure
3 bet bigger
c bet more on the flop

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01-10-2013 , 12:41 PM

#15

chiego

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flop sizing is fine

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