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10-02-2013 , 02:37 AM

coolenrene

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 324

3 hands on villain so no history.

I think villain is more likely to do this with an overpair then with 66/99, also i dont see villain having a 2 in his range.

Standard gii?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19750201

BTN: $5.37 (53.7 bb)
Hero (SB): $15.17 (151.7 bb)
BB: $18.78 (187.8 bb)
UTG+1: $8.60 (86 bb)
UTG+2: $2.51 (25.1 bb)
MP1: $3.78 (37.8 bb)
MP2: $10.69 (106.9 bb)
MP3: $29.01 (290.1 bb)
CO: $11.06 (110.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.30, 5 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.90, UTG+2 folds

Flop: ($2.30) 2

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, BB calls $1.80

Turn: ($5.90) 2

(2 players)
Hero bets $4, BB raises to $8, Hero raises to $12.37, BB calls $4.37

River: ($30.64) T

(2 players)

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10-02-2013 , 02:50 AM

msm1089

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 28

Seems likely he has one pair or flush. I think I would have played this the same way.

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10-02-2013 , 04:20 AM

Declanisfolding

adept

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 759

Preand flop look standard.

You don't have any reads on him, so I dont think it's unreasonable to think 10 10-KK could play this way.

Maybe given the fact he flatted PF when it was 3-way with strong action and plus he was 150bb deep v hero, we should not dismiss his set-mines here.

What was your plan on the turn?

The turn c-bet looks a bit high if you were ever considering folding to a raise.

If you were planning to GII and were never considering folding to a raise then you played the hand well.

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10-02-2013 , 06:24 AM

danny2241

adept

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,155

Did you shove turn? Looks like it but doesn't say "and is all in"

Villains spazz out on low paired boards with overpairs you'll see TT-QQ here a lot more often than 66/99.

The whole "min raise is the nuts" argument has become a bit dogmatic too, a lot of the time it's just a cheap attempt at getting you off your air.

Last edited by danny2241; 10-02-2013 at 06:29 AM.

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10-02-2013 , 07:18 AM

hnsmht

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 384

i dont see how villain can ever have TT-QQ here unless he is a fish (and we have no evidence that he is a fish so we must assume he is competent)

im folding turn to the raise as played. villain opened UTG so his range is weighted heavily towards pocket pairs and maybe AKs. he's so aggro its radiating strength so clearly he's value betting

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10-02-2013 , 07:30 AM

jaypatel33

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,801

Min raise looks so strong here, Danny I don't think this is a bluff, we 3bet pre, how air can we have? I think we should fold here. But in game, I am probably shipping.. and then curses.

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10-02-2013 , 07:35 AM

Declanisfolding

adept

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 759

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Originally Posted by hnsmht

i dont see how villain can ever have TT-QQ here unless he is a fish (and we have no evidence that he is a fish so we must assume he is competent)

im folding turn to the raise as played. villain opened UTG so his range is weighted heavily towards pocket pairs and maybe AKs. he's so aggro its radiating strength so clearly he's value betting

Villain was in BB and flatted a SB raise to an UTG+2 open.

I do not think it's that unreasonable to think he has TT-QQ here.

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PS:

If OP's question is should he GII on turn then OP probably should have only posted hand to Villains turn raise (and not shown hero's shove).
Then people would give better advice imo.

Otherwise people will give skewed advice because they decide
..... hero shoved, hero posted hand on 2+2, hero must have lost, therefore hero should have folded.

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10-02-2013 , 10:53 AM

pitapita

Lia Marie Johnson

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 7,089

He would probably raise flop with 99 or 66, on the turn it's very unlikely that you're beat.

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10-02-2013 , 10:58 AM

MartL

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10,637

Getting the money in the pot on this board given pre flop is so unbelievably standard.

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10-02-2013 , 11:25 AM

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jaypatel33

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,801

MartL, what do you mean by "given pre"? As in he flatted our 3bet, so should be something like QQ/KK in his range, given we are deep, isn't it justified for villain to call with 99 etc.

Pita, why would he raise the flop and not the turn with a set, I think thats entirely villain style dependent. Wouldn't it be best play to call the flop and raise the turn or even the river?

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10-02-2013 , 11:48 AM

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MartL

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10,637

People dont cold call 3bets that light so Im more inclined to put his range heading more towards TT+/AK when he does that.

Once the board pairs on the turn I really cant see how we can fold. Even against a range of just KK/99/66/22 we are only 46% dog and given the money in the pot without doing the maths I doubt we even need 30% even if the villain simply shoved the turn.

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