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02-04-2012 , 03:17 PM
Merge $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1623658
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UTG: $3.99
CO: $16.08 28/23 51% steal 8.3% 3b over 549 hands
BTN: $7.41
Hero (SB): $14.05
BB: $13.15

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 9 9
1 fold, CO raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.90) 6 2 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.67, Hero raises to $1.64, CO raises to $3.51, Hero folds

Is this just overs + FD? I don't really like folding here, but I don't like stacking off here either. Thoughts?

Last edited by johnstumper; 02-04-2012 at 03:43 PM.
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02-04-2012 , 03:18 PM
Check raising with the intention of folding to a 3 bet really sucks. What are you trying to get value from with your flop raise?
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02-04-2012 , 03:23 PM
Please stop posting on my threads
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02-04-2012 , 03:41 PM
Call and reevaluate...plus we need reads or stats. Vs a drooler I'm happier stacking off but vs a reg it's not a good spot
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02-04-2012 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Myopic Llama
Check raising with the intention of folding to a 3 bet really sucks. What are you trying to get value from with your flop raise?
Seriously, +1. I would have called because he'll never shove worse, if he folds you had the better hands and if he calls you'll be OOP in a pretty big pot facing (1/3) a bad turn card
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02-04-2012 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Akromah
Call and reevaluate...plus we need reads or stats. Vs a drooler I'm happier stacking off but vs a reg it's not a good spot
28/23 51% steal 8.3% 3b over 549 hands

thought i had put that in
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02-04-2012 , 07:21 PM
Your equity against sets, 2P, 1P+FD, and OCs+FDs is 36%. Highly unlikely that villain is 3B bluffing you ... Fold. I don't see anything wrong with CRing the flop for value and protection. If I am villain and you CC this flop, then I'm barreling on any turn/river broadway or spade.
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02-04-2012 , 07:51 PM
c/c and reevaluate the turn.
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02-04-2012 , 07:58 PM
Definite flat otf.
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02-04-2012 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FineWan
Definite flat otf.
Then do what? Fold if any card higher than a 9 comes on the turn and he bets?
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02-04-2012 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by johnstumper
Please stop posting on my threads
that is good advice, what the **** is up your ass??

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Originally Posted by johnstumper
Then do what? Fold if any card higher than a 9 comes on the turn and he bets?
how about playing some ****ing poker.

next time you c/r the flop ask yourself why you are doing it and have a plan for any action villain takes. im not saying your c/r is bad but if you are doing it just because you are scared of an A on the turn then go crawl in a ditch.

my responses are harsh because you come off as a giant dick. oh and some real reads would help not just PFR and 3b%. dick.
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02-04-2012 , 11:05 PM
anyone else?

ps - eat a dick millerwhite, the last time i had my period was when i was a 13 year old girl, whats your excuse?
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02-04-2012 , 11:12 PM
look, if you arent willing to take advice from anything that has already been written then gtfo imo. no one here has to give advice, we do it on our own time. and so far everyone has given great tips so what else do you want?

everything in this hand that needs to be covered has been.





so did you get a sex change or something thats pretty kinky
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02-04-2012 , 11:37 PM
millerwhite, if you dont like what i have to say then stop posting in my thread, no one is forcing you to read it. i asked myopic, politely, to please stop posting, as he has posted in a couple of my threads and i can tell he is still learning the game.

so get off my ass b/c im not interested in arguing over an internet forum with someone whos number of posts are 10 times the amount of his winnings
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02-04-2012 , 11:42 PM
lol good lord

you are like a homeless man turning down some generous mans offerings because you(the homeless) "dont like that kind of food"

*last response l8er*
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02-04-2012 , 11:43 PM
op wants to get aproval of his play?

Face the faking criticism, if you think that you played your hand perfectly why bother asking here?

Actually Myopic Llama made a good post.
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02-04-2012 , 11:50 PM
I don't think I played perfectly at all. The raise was to protect myself from folding the best hand and having to face multiple barrels. I was posting to see other points of view, why is everyone so up in arms?

regardless i shouldn't have jumped his ****, i know he was just trying to help, im not trying to make badblood on here, just trying to figure some stuff out

Last edited by johnstumper; 02-04-2012 at 11:58 PM.
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02-05-2012 , 12:02 AM
Just dont act like a prick if someone is wasting his time to help. If you dont like his ideas just ask why he would do that and that.

About the hand, c/r is not bad, you are avoiding checking back turn plus fair amount of the time you will win on the flop, if called you can still barrel some turns. Maybe its not the most ev plus play but it simplify a lot this hand. When 3betted its an easy fold.
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02-05-2012 , 05:02 AM
Myopic pretty much nailed it with his response. This screams "raise to find out where you're at"
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02-05-2012 , 05:24 AM
That's a really bad raise, you're not balanced at all. Flat otf the raise is terrible. What do you balance this raise with ? Really, only raise this flop with FD+overs, big preflop slowplayed overpairs and sets, and call with semi-marginal holdings like these.
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02-05-2012 , 01:35 PM
Donk betting the flop looks best. You take the initiative, protect your hand define villain's range, and charge draws. It's also much cheaper than a CR.
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02-05-2012 , 02:21 PM
1) if your going to raise, make it bigger.. it looks so bluffy
2) if villain cbets alot and loves to barrel you should just keep calling (if this was the reason you raised then your just losing money)
3) being that you folded, you understand the value of your hand and you are essentially turning your hand into a bluff since your just raising and hoping u fold out his air portion of his cbets.
4) what were your turn plans if called?
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02-05-2012 , 02:47 PM
1) I agree, I try to make it 2.6x so 1.74 would be better, maybe 1.84 wouldn't be bad either.

2)I agree with this, but I think something alot of poker players continually think about is the idea of letting them bluff and risk them catching, or shut the hand down and pick up your pot. I think if your more comfortable with variance and have great tilt control maybe its better to take the risk vs c/r'ing, I don't hate donking either

3) Yea, I dunno if I can stack off here, I don't think it's great, but no one has really adressed that aspect of this hand. Dude is a fish, down 5 BIs over 500+ hands. His fold CB to raise is %33, and his CB is %61

4) On the turn I'm barreling any undercards, spades, 10's, 9's, folding to a raise.

I guess I should have put that in the first part
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02-05-2012 , 07:07 PM
1) What worse otf is going to call your raise?
2) If your barreling spades then your turning your hand into a bluff and going to face action alot of the time as this is going to be a very high percentage of his flop raise calling range.

90% of the strategic posts in this thread make alot of sense. Don't just abuse those who offer advice.
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02-05-2012 , 08:03 PM
c/r flop is just bad, no way around it and it should be obv why
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