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03-04-2010 , 01:48 PM
I know you aren't meant to put 2 hands in one post, but they are all against the same villain and I have some reads on him, so to get better responses Ill put them in here. Reads may not be directly applicable but they show he's erratic and ******ed.

Notes - running at 66/32
- called a 3b OOP, w/44, donked 1/2 pot on 833cc, tank called a shove.(50bbs deep)
-fast played a flopped str8 on a non-flush board IP
-c/c 44 on K32dd, turn goes chk/chk, river completes a 4 flush, he vbets 1/2 pot w/ a rivered set


##Hand 1

Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $50.00
MP: $50.00
CO: $24.35
BTN: $17.25
SB: $27.20
Hero (BB): $77.15

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with J J
4 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.00) T 6 K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.00, SB calls $3

Turn: ($10.00) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, SB calls $6.50

At this stage I knew he could call down 2 streets with much worse, my turn bet should be much larger.

River: ($23.00) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $15.70, Hero??

He insta jams the river. At this stage I don't think sets/2p are in his range, barring 77 or a pair making 2p on the river. Ive seen him be pretty aggressive with most made hands. One straight got there, but QJ missed and if he picked up a spade draw that also whiffed, although I havn't seen him bluff busted draws yet.

Getting these good odds I don't need to be correct that often, also I had been owning him in a few pots before this getting him to call down superlight, maybe that might make a difference, i don't know. Considering he's erratic, is he bluffing or randomly betting a Ten/97/98 here enough of the time?


##Hand 2


Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $59.10
MP: $67.70
CO: $13.40
BTN: $7.20
SB: $56.35
Hero (BB): $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with T 8
4 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.00) 2 T 6 (2 players)
SB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($3.00) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($6.00) Q (2 players)
SB bets $8.35, Hero??

He timed down a little before overbetting the river. Overbets are usually the nuts right? Should I bluff catch or fold? I figure his range is pretty much 2x or air here, maybe some very weak Qx.

Last edited by fattony7891; 03-04-2010 at 02:04 PM.
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03-04-2010 , 01:57 PM
I think I'm sigh-calling #1 and shrug-folding #2.
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03-04-2010 , 02:17 PM
I could def. see myself calling hand 1 but it would depend a decent amount on his timing and how he normally bets. If he normally takes his time, and this time he just insta-jammed, it'd make me more likely to call

I'm raising the flop (or the turn) in hand 2, but I guess I fold the river
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03-04-2010 , 02:30 PM
Hand one makes no sense. He either revered 2pr or has complete air here.
Hand 2 is a fold. He usually revered a queen.
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03-04-2010 , 02:47 PM
hand 1 i think is an easy call once u bet the turn for value, leaving him with less than a psb. he'll have random pairs worse than a king and missed straight draws lots imo.

hand 2 id definitely raise pre. probably call river cause hes 66/33 and all that history. he seems aggro and random. looks like he wants u to fold. if he actually has a hand its probably a small Qx.

hard to give ranges or anything for either hand. hes just likely to show up with random crap in both spots enough to call.
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03-04-2010 , 03:51 PM
if u bet turn in hand 2 then u gotta call river i guess. especially if you have a read that he has spazzed before here.
I fold vs a random tho because this is slowplayed hand to often. but my pot would also be smaller on the turn making the fold easier. When I see people donk rivers im more inclined to check turn and let them bluff/value own themself-- especially with these annoying stacks . ur setting urself up for a ****ty shove by him @ the river. so I bet larger pre, flop, turn. or as played check turn

im folding hand 2. flop turn ez call but river is just to much. He might even show up with a better ten?
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03-04-2010 , 08:28 PM
the thruth is that im calling in both hands and maybe regreting after?

h1: are you going for 3 streets of value? hard to get them in that board, i rather check turn can call/vbet river even tho hes a massive fish.. hes not calling a mid pair 3 times and hes more likely to call with 33 or 56 on the river than on the turn.

as played he has 2 pair or str8 a lot here because the river gives him a pair with a lot of his gutters and hes not turning that rivered pair in such a bluff imo .

h1 is meh i see a fold.


hand 2 is different, when they overbet x2 a limped pot is a bluff 90% of the time, when he bets rather small the turn after generally is a blockbet maybe a bdfd , and then the river is nuts/air.. and theres a lot more air than nuts here so i call


you should take notes on his nsd pots too btw :P


oh and as i said, im not sure of whats best in this hands... just my pov
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03-04-2010 , 08:59 PM
Hand 1: I would check the turn. As played i would call and hate my life

Hand 2: if he donks a lot i like a raise for value on the flop, as played fold.
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03-04-2010 , 09:26 PM
Hand 1: check back turn. If you plan on getting only 2 streets of value might as well save your last vbet for the river. Also, good for potcontrol. Fold river. If a draw whiffed on the river, I would call this though, same for hand 2.

Hand 2: Fold, either he rivered you or he has a 2.
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03-04-2010 , 09:39 PM
there's a ton of GS in hand 1 why would I check the turn?
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03-04-2010 , 09:43 PM
I would check either flop or turn in hand 1 as a default
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03-04-2010 , 09:43 PM
WTH is GS?
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03-04-2010 , 11:10 PM
In hand 1 I am betting $7.25 on the turn and folding when he leads the river. In hand 2 I raise preflop with 22+, 63o+ and 52s+, so I raise it preflop to $1.75 (pot + .5bb, extra .5bb because I'm in the blinds), as played flop and turn are fine, imo, fold river.
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03-05-2010 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bojangles90
WTH is GS?
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