Mine were vs a 2.5x open so it makes sense to 3bet more vs a 3x.

As far as preflop, well it isn't solved yet. No one knows what percentage AQs is 3bet vs a CO open at equilibrium.

Saying they are "drastically wrong" is hyperbole either way though since players a lot better than me use them.

AQs BBvsCO is a 3bet 100% and not even close...

Oh you solved preflop? Good to know.

You can say it is higher EV vs population if you want, which I'm not even sure that is true. Since OOP will make more mistakes in 3bet pots.

Arguing about preflop is a waste of time.

Yeah but this hand is 3x. And people using a tool, doesn't mean they are using it correctly. You put way too much faith in supposedly "better players". Most of them just have ran good through most of their playing careers' and play higher as a result. They aren't the magical, perfectly thinking players you imagine them to be.

Don't want to take wackeroffs side, but imagine you flatted AA pre. It's obviously not exactly the same thing, but it's in a similar category.

I'll try to describe an example how I see you in poker:
Image you play 10th soccer league in england as a striker. All players around are not very good (thats why they play in the 10th league) You want to become a better player and maybe want to play in premier league.

Most important thing to move up is to make goals. Its not important how you make goals but make a lot of them. Try to learn basics and score the easy ones. Once you shot 20 goals a team from maybe 7th league buys you and you play against better players (the only way to become better by yourself)
Its still the most important thing to score the easy goals. You have to improve to also be able to resist against better players but still basic things are your biggest and most important weapons (control the ball, have a good shot,...)

After 20 goals each year and moving up league and league you become much better as your opponents are much better.
You are a solid player in league 3 or 2 with a very, very good salary.
To do the last step to premier league you have to learn and do the special things (but still you are very good in all football basics)....

I think you understand what I mean.

I have the feeling you are in league 10 and want to learn a overhead puller altough you have not really learned the soccer basics. Once a year you score a goal with this technic in league 10 (like ronaldo in the premier league (Serie A)) but you forget that you are in league 10 (where it would be much more important to score the other easy 39 goals he is doing beside this goal)

So in my opinion:
- You cannot get better if you play against bad players
- It makes no sense to think about how you can get an addition 0,1bb/100 if you are not able to get the easy 10bb/100 with basic hands

Yeah I know from being on this forum for over 2 years that this is how you feel, but it's not correct.

The difference between a good 10nl blitz reg and a good 500nl zoom reg is subtle in a lot of spots, but has a huge difference in win rate.

Using metaphors about soccer or other sports doesn't convey any knowledge about poker.

It's a round about way of saying you ran out of stuff to talk about in poker - so you transition to some other sports/hobby you know something about. And then try to relate it to poker in a way that is not relatable at all.

I wouldn't say the average 10NL reg Blitz player is bad, just nitty and uncreative in general.

As far as having not learned the basics, well that's again not true at all. I have a solid sample of about 150k hands with a good winrate@10NL Blitz.

I've also had database analysis from crushers so I have an idea of where my leaks are.

You can have your 45% W$WSF and your red line that goes straight down and pretend to know what you are talking about. I'll continue to try to get better and have discussions with more open minded forum members.

So why still play NL10 against fishes and not move up ?

I thought it was established a long time that you don't need a positive red line to be a "crusher"

I have a pretty decent graph for 50nl, and my red line is ****.

i am a crusher (if you believe it or not doesnt matter) and I dont have to see your database to see that your biggest leak are your senseless bluffs again and again...

NL10 is such an easy limit - stucked there means you have more leaks than abilities

It doesn't have to be positive but if it goes straight down - that's not good.

Also if you have a sub 48 W$WSF - that's not good either.

It's really easy to prove if you are a crusher or not. Just post a graph and stats.

it doesnt matter for me if you believe it or not...

Your bluffs are spew and you ruin your play with them...

Both of those are just biased assumptions you personally possess based on the fallacy of authority. Are all of these higher stakes guys just sunrunners? No, but the *vast* majority of them definitely are. Do you think they do something magical with their solvers, discussions, and similar years of experience that we have? Again the answer is no with zero room for doubt.

If it didn't matter - you wouldn't say it didn't matter.

But I guess Halloween came early. Everyone is a crusher now

It's not really about time or experience though. It's about how you are using your solver and thinking about spots.

You could be in the same spot 1000 times, but if you always think about that spot with the exact same mindset. You will never get better at that spot.

Also the forum vehicle of communication allows for way more margin of error. You literally can go solve/study a spot, come back a day later. And pretend to be Linus Love.

That's not how poker works though. You have 20 seconds to make a decision.

This forum by nature, allows people to believe they are better than they are. Why do you think no world class players post strategy in public forums?

All that being said, this forum is awesome for beginners/intermediate players. But it has a shelf life.

From my PT4 database...25nl and 50nl

Redline seems to be pretty horizontal. WWSF is low

It's good you are winning.

But the low W$WSF/negative 10-20 buyin red line means you are most likely running above expectation.

Thanks for posting the graph, more than I can say for Wacker.

I'll post mine too. Share party. All 10NL Blitz on ACR

I would say that I think it's an unnecessary line against most at these stakes, and almost certainly unnecessary against a random.

Flatting pre isn't that big of a deal but it's not default.

If we're going to turn this hand into a bluff Id prefer a triple barrel over a double as I think he has some one pair hands that will fold the river that can't or won't fold to a double. Stacks seem set up for a river shove and I'm not convinced he's betting this small on the flop with two clubs.

Going to need a bigger sample on hero to add any more.

Sounds to me like you’re not a crusher. Stats or stfu and stop talking **** to people trying to discuss actual poker and clogging up threads 😇

as someone who lurks 2p2 and enjoys these threads please shut up and stop derailing them

Love you all - lol

NL0,02 fish crying?