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04-19-2018 , 02:21 PM

cmc0605

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I'm reviewing some of my 0.25/0.5 NL hands on Pokersnowie, and ran across this hand I played a few days ago where it suggested my flop bet was a blunder or "major mistake." I cannot understand why.

We're 5-handed. UTG open raises 3x to $1.50. I am UTG+1 (CO in 5-handed) with AQo and pot it to $5.25. It folds around to the initial open raiser who calls to $3.75.

Flop is Q76 rainbow. UTG checks, I bet 0.4Pot ($4.35) and villain folds. Fairly standard imo.

But PokerSnowie hates this flop move and prefers a check. From a GTO-perspective, I'm wondering if anyone has insight into why?

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04-19-2018 , 02:28 PM

Lazarus Ledd

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Solvers can be weird. Maybe it thinks AQ is bottom of your value and you block continue range on dry board and you cover one overcard. So I guess it puts that hand in check back protection.

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04-19-2018 , 03:11 PM

mchares

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Maybe because the same value we can get it later + we can induce some bluffs and we'll be IP

Betting is still +EV but checking apparently is better EV, I used equilab to try to understand better

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04-19-2018 , 03:36 PM

Brokenstars

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don't overthink it

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04-19-2018 , 04:11 PM

CrazyAndy27s

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Snowie is a good reference point post rather than the be all and end all.

Focus more on the concept that it might be trying to highlight rather than the specific hand/s that it does highlight.

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04-19-2018 , 08:57 PM

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Yeah this is kind of boggling, I don't see much reason to check here. It's not so super strong that we don't care about giving a free card to let the V catch up....

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04-20-2018 , 02:56 AM

Risso

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Don't know about the ranges on NL50, but the range I used (QQ-66,KQs,AJs,AK,AQs )gave us an equity of ~75%

What kinda of hands are we trying to get value from when we're taking a betting line otf?

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04-20-2018 , 03:21 AM

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grinder

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Not sure if he's calling a 3bet with 66 or 77.

I would think we can get value from QK, JJ, 10s, maybe AK (not sure if he 4bets that) and we also benefit from fold equity, since and ace or a king would not be a great card to see on the turn.

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04-20-2018 , 04:47 AM

Risso

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if we remove 66-77 then we're up to 84% equity. KQ is probably calling 2 streets JJ & TT probably only one. JJ & TT might turn into bluffs/thin valuebets on later streets. *if we check

An A would make us 2pair which is nice

, but yeah a K would suck but that is what like 6% chance of that happening ott

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04-20-2018 , 07:40 AM

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ToiletBowler

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What are the flop ranges everyone has at the beginning of the flop btw (before any action has been taken).

I’ll take a look

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04-20-2018 , 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Risso

An A would make us 2pair which is nice

, but yeah a K would suck but that is what like 6% chance of that happening ott

Lol, oh right. I can imagine a case for checking then, you have a point.

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