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Old 12-07-2017, 01:15 PM   #1
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What's your calling range

NL25 zoom with no info on opponent

It folds to him in MP and he open shoves 100 BBs. It folds around to you in the BB, what do you call with? I had one of those hands that I consider right on the line and I'm just curious how others would see it.
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:56 PM   #2
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Re: What's your calling range

Readless I'd call AQo+, AJs+, TT+.
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Old 12-07-2017, 02:14 PM   #3
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Re: What's your calling range

That happened to me the other day - I had AK and lost to A10. I’m calling only AK and QQ+. Readless.
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Old 12-07-2017, 02:53 PM   #4
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Re: What's your calling range

We can easily call min def frequency my gues is it is close to QQ+ AK. Lazy, will not compute it, such spots are not frequent.
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:23 PM   #5
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Re: What's your calling range

I typically do QQ+, AK against a 100BB open shove. Admittedly, I doubt that's optimal.
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:32 PM   #6
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99 I think, 88/77 is borderline. AT I think. We should probably be going wider imo, got to keep chips flying. But then readless probably no need to go crazy
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:42 PM   #7
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Re: What's your calling range

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We can easily call min def frequency my gues is it is close to QQ+ AK. Lazy, will not compute it, such spots are not frequent.
I worked it out but what are they shoving with here. My mind at the time went to some kind of steam raise. He had exactly 100 BB and so probably lost a big pot last hand and was chasing that loss with who knows what. I know that's just a guess and even so I don't think he's shoving rags but can we not call a little wider than mdf?

I had AQo and ended up dumping it.
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:47 PM   #8
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I worked it out but what are they shoving with here. My mind at the time went to some kind of steam raise. He had exactly 100 BB and so probably lost a big pot last hand and was chasing that loss with who knows what. I know that's just a guess and even so I don't think he's shoving rags but can we not call a little wider than mdf?

I had AQo and ended up dumping it.
In my experience the range is {AA-KK, total trash that doesn't make any sense}. I don't have a ton of data on it, although maybe I'll look through HEM later tonight and see what my sample shows. I play on Ignition so the hand should show what the open shover has, even if everybody else folds.

Maybe the second part of that range can be explained with misclicks. I don't know how easy it is to accidentally open shove on other sites, but it's very easy on Ignition. I accidentally open shoved 55 PF for 180BB once (BB tanked and showed me QJo), but it might explain part of the reason you see open shoves.
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