How do we play this vs. what appears to be a fishy rec.

Yatahay Network - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 164.98 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 147.76 BB
MP: 120 BB
CO: 164.08 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 9

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 5.8 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) 8 4 9
CO checks, Hero bets 7 BB, CO raises to 20 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

Turn: (57.5 BB, 2 players) 9
CO bets 36 BB, Hero calls 36 BB

River: (129.5 BB, 2 players) J
CO bets 100.08 BB and is all-in, Hero ?

Do we call this river?

Check flop - i think if you are going to bet you go huge like full pot at this SPR.

as played just ship turn.

as played - I think we want blockers to a flush before trips so I'd fold.

Why a flush? What is he even repping here, QTc, that doesn't make much sense for either flop or turn? The Jc is also a very good card since it can't be something like JTc or QJc. Seems like it's either 88 or 44 that beats us or a weird JJ which I don't think plays turn or pre like that. Could be something like J9, K9, A9, 89 too but we have the 9 blocker.

I tend to not jam in these turn spots because recs in these games have the most weird bluff and value lines. Stuff like JTs and 87s missed and are likely bluff candidates, while QTs is the only thing that got there. If I jam turn it likely folds out all his draws and random air shoves, and think most of our ev here, when we are not beat, comes from catching those missed draws and air.

Meant to say 67s.

If he really is a fish, he won't fold to the turn jam. I'm not sure if we want 9x or blockers here. I don't see 9x playing like this, I think fish usually XR way more polarized so it is either a missed draw OTR/FH/or backdoor clubs.

The 9 only blocks 1 combo of 99 and 1 combo of 98s. So I think blocking flushes with overpairs might be better but it is a tough spot. That's pretty much the reason I'd shove turn here or X back flop. Around half the deck is going to make our life difficult if he ships, and his sizing's/line are very value heavy.

I think fish usually give up OTR as well, he played this hand well so far wrt to his flop sizing/turn sizing and river ship sizing. So I'd say he is 1) Not a fish 2) Shipping for value

Interested in results though.

Because we have the Q straight blocker, the 9 blocker and the second best club in the deck hitting for us made it a call. I only see 88 44 89 as a value range here really with a QTs and JJ once in a blue moon.

Flop looks good IMO, you can maybe trap Q9 rarely but I much prefer betting. Turn looks good also, jamming would shut down his bluffs and there are not really any river run-outs to worry about, and there is no rush since you are IP. River definitely call IMO especially vs this opponent where you probably beat some of their value range too (especially after seeing showdown ).

flop bet looks too big for the strength of your hand. bet small or x
can jam turn
not folding trips ap

Alright first post says too small, last post too big

If I don't have a read on him being a fish/rec, do we call this river vs. a reg?

Shove turn or call turn?

Are you a 50NL Blitz pro? If not what right to you have to call somebody a "rec" when you also are one. Call them what they are, some sort of fish, and be descriptive. Are they a loose-passive fish, an aggro whale, a nit, etc.

btch im cutr

Good luck figuring out the kind of "fish" they are in a blitz pool within a session. Rec just means unbalanced ranges ldo.

Looks like I was wrong about the big sizing OTF - I guess since this board crushes CO we go a bit smaller.

In my solve (which isn't 100% accurate because I am using 200BB ranges so the SPR is 11 instead of 9 where it is here). The ideal cbet sizing is 50% (I thought it would be higher).

CO does a fair amount of donk leading even at 11 SPR which shows us just how good this board is for their range.

I have CO having an Equity and EV advantage 52.79% vs 47.21%

Q9s always gets checked back here if we node lock CO to never donking.

Was gonna solve this myself, glad you did it already. I was almost certain flop was gonna be a fairly high frequency check for the IP player, especially with this holding. At what frequency should we be betting this flop as the IP player?


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It's close to a range X back. I have it at 27%@50% sizing for our range

Interesting, thanks for the solve. Flop is good for CO because they have 88, 99, 89s, A9s and flush draws as a larger proportion of their range, even though hero has more JJ+? Or why is it so good for CO?

Good solve, DDP. I would've said to bet 65%.

Definitely ship the turn. That board's got too much goin' on.

AP, not folding