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10-23-2018 , 11:07 PM
Checked turn with intention of calling a river bet thinking villain should have a lot of floats here. He's river size were a little big and I have better hands to call here.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
SB: 46.5 BB
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 101.5 BB
MP: 200 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
CO: 116.5 BB (VPIP: 22.64, PFR: 16.98, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 60)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 8

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 5 5 9
BB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Turn: (9.5 BB, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (9.5 BB, 2 players) 7
BB bets 6 BB, Hero?,
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10-24-2018 , 02:51 AM
Fold.

Contibet with FD/SD on flop and check on turn is fine.

BBs range is too big. Not worth 6BBs. Your loosing too much in a long run if you call with A high and low kicker.
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10-24-2018 , 05:05 AM
I'd call. Your flop sizing is small enough to the point where he could have floated garbage as well as counterfeited under pairs.
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10-24-2018 , 07:00 AM
Fold PF? Its not even a standard BTN raise in my range.

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10-24-2018 , 07:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by R0@dkill
Fold PF? Its not even a standard BTN raise in my range.
WTF??




I'd call river and be very happy about it
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10-24-2018 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by R0@dkill
Its not even a standard BTN raise in my range.

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that's ludicrous
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10-24-2018 , 07:22 AM
also folding pre unless table is passive

river is an easy fold in my book, villain is supposed to overfold flop and the river hits his str8 draw
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10-24-2018 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ojune
also folding pre unless table is passive

river is an easy fold in my book, villain is supposed to overfold flop and the river hits his str8 draw

what str8? 68s?

if you are talking about T8, then he has enough flop floats to bluff river
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10-24-2018 , 07:28 AM
7x and no he should fold A high so we don't have to worry about that since he would be bleeding money doing that
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10-24-2018 , 07:28 AM
PS 2NLz, its not in my standard BTN range. It rly isn't. I'll might have to adjust when moving up. I dunno dynamics beyond PS 2NLz. And I dunno bout regular tables. But I'm happy with my 5bb/100 working on my BR for 5NLz. I'll evaluate my range once I get there.

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10-24-2018 , 07:31 AM
yea better play tighter against tough opponents
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10-24-2018 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ojune
yea better play tighter against tough opponents
hahahaha
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10-24-2018 , 09:02 AM
A8s foldable UTG but not from button.

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10-24-2018 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by R0@dkill
PS 2NLz, its not in my standard BTN range. It rly isn't. I'll might have to adjust when moving up. I dunno dynamics beyond PS 2NLz. And I dunno bout regular tables. But I'm happy with my 5bb/100 working on my BR for 5NLz. I'll evaluate my range once I get there.

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Beeing a winning player is a good thing and congrats for achieving that. However, if you plan to move up, you will see a decline in winrate. 5BB/100 at NL2-NL5 will probably mean youre loosing at NL 25. Not sure what your goals are, and I don't want to be a dick, but you shouldnt be "happy" with 5BB/100 at nanostakes if your plan is to ever make a meaningful income with poker. at NL2 it should be more like 20-30BB/100 hands. The stage where you are at right now should be used to learn as much as possible, you shouldn't wait to improve until you "get there".
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10-24-2018 , 09:59 AM
Hand doesn't block anything meaningful. We are interested in blocking A9s, 98s and T9s, and to a lesser extent K9s and 97s and J9s.
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10-24-2018 , 10:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by R0@dkill
Fold PF? Its not even a standard BTN raise in my range.
What.
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10-24-2018 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Iblis
What.
the
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10-24-2018 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ChipsNcrisps
the
****?

FWIW, I open A8s UTG 100% of the time (and it's been profitable over my last 90,000 hands of microzoom) and I'm a nit pre-flop. A6s and A2s are the only suited aces I'd consider folding UTG. (I've had slight losses with those, so I usually have a quick look at who is on the table before deciding whether to play them. Snowie is also ambivalent about A6s and A2s. I think it rates their EV at 0.01bb.)
I'm obviously never open-folding a suited ace on the BTN. That would take nittery to a ridiculous level.
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10-25-2018 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
****?

FWIW, I open A8s UTG 100% of the time (and it's been profitable over my last 90,000 hands of microzoom) and I'm a nit pre-flop. A6s and A2s are the only suited aces I'd consider folding UTG. (I've had slight losses with those, so I usually have a quick look at who is on the table before deciding whether to play them. Snowie is also ambivalent about A6s and A2s. I think it rates their EV at 0.01bb.)
I'm obviously never open-folding a suited ace on the BTN. That would take nittery to a ridiculous level.
What do you do vs 3bets? A8s is going to be dominated so often. And there's a lot of 3betting at 2NLz. So mostly Im just not good enough to play that hand in 'steal' situations.

Also I never said it's not in my BTN range. Its just not a no brain standard opener. I do open vs nitty low 3betting villains in blinds. Personal I think u need the FE PF and FE cbet to play it +EV? I can also open it on occasion at CO depending on villains behind me. But its not in my HJ-UTG range, never.

But I'm just starting and learning. So I'm not typing this as a truth nor my conviction, don't get me wrong. However I don't need to stretch myself to play it vs LAGs in the blinds and BTN at this point to play 2NLz profitable.

I don't feel I'm a nit. I play sessions from LAG 28/26 to TAG 13/10, it all depends on villains I get on tables. Daytime its much looser cause in general villains are tighter and fold far more then in the evenings so I open wider.

Honestly does that make sense or am I leveling myself?

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10-25-2018 , 01:44 AM
@R0@dkill let me give you few advice's. first of, if you do open A8s on early positions, you can fold vs 3bet. Also, it might look to you that people on 2nl 3bet wide, but that's not true, the higher you go in stakes, people 3bet wider, play more aggressive...

Also, not that rake is high on 2nl, so not playing marginal hands is fine, like not opening A8s in UTG is fine, but on the button, it's just not close.

Find some ranges on internet (snowie comes first to my mind), and tweak it a bit so that it suits you, I guess just remove bottom X hands and don't play them until you move up
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10-25-2018 , 03:23 AM
You can easily call a 3bet w A8s on the button
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10-25-2018 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by R0@dkill
And there's a lot of 3betting at 2NLz. So mostly Im just not good enough to play that hand in 'steal' situations.

Its just not a no brain standard opener.
1 - No there isn't, there is by far the least 3betting you'll see in any zoom pool.

2 - Yes it is.
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10-25-2018 , 05:47 AM
Dude A8s on the button was top range even in the 60s I guess, come on.
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10-25-2018 , 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Iblis
Dude A8s on the button was top range even in the 60s I guess, come on.
LOL
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10-25-2018 , 07:05 AM
I wanna see your 'standard' BTN opening range if A8s is not in it
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